[OTR-users] Is there life after DNS?

[codewarrior at cuseeme.de]

dear list members,
due  to the massive  influence from tycoon firms,
and the ongoing  software patents disscussion
in europe and the pressure from the
http://www.mpaa.org/ on bittorrent users
i think there is a strong need for  "Opencuseeme"
the first free peer2peer multiconferencing tool.
please  join we need some helping  hands

best regards

marc manthey

www.cuseeme.de
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opencuseeme /  peer2peer multiparty conferencing


Begin forwarded message:


> From: Peter Dambier <peter at peter-dambier.de>
> Date: June 5, 2005 12:34:18 PM GMT+02:00
> To: discussions at list.inaic.com
> Cc: Marc Manthey <marc at let.de>
> Subject: Is there life after DNS?
> Reply-To: peter at peter-dambier.de
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> did you ever ask yourself that question?
>
> With 2369 domains we have the best root. We are the frontier. We  
> have to think
> what comes after DNS.
>
> ICANN does not face that frontier. They used to have 250 Domains  
> but they lost
> one. No they are back to 249. They cannot go up to 250 again  
> because the
> next domain they want to introduse is "xxx." and that gets filtered  
> and
> accused on most servers they use because they are owned by  
> universities.
> It just happened to me and several others on NANOG. :)
>
> IPv6 will be a challenge. No normal human beeing thinks of typing  
> in IPv6
> addresses. Cut and paste, maybe - but typing, no! IPv6 will break DNS!
>
> There are nameservers behind firewalls that dont allow tpc  
> connections to the
> namesevers. IPv6 addresses will break packet borders and they will  
> finally
> break these nameservers.
>
> You dont need IPv6? Ipv4 is good enuf for you?
>
> Joe and me, we have seen IPv9 working. Stay with your old IPv4  
> machines and let
> governements decide what is good for you. Send your emails to the  
> governement
> and let them decide what is spam. They are looking forward to  
> reading and maybe
> forwarding or not your emails. Who needs to run a mailserver  
> anyhow. Dont you
> think its a good idea of the goverment to close port 25 forwarding?
>
> If you dont think so read on!
>
> Today we have to worlds a host might live in. There are some good  
> guys running
> servers running important machines with fixed addresses. They make  
> up the world
> of DNS. Everybody can ask DNS for their addresses and maybe their  
> names.
>
> And then we have hosts like yours and mine connected via NAT- 
> routers to dsl- or
> cable-modems or to good old pots via good old modems. Whenever I  
> connect to the
> internet I get a new ip. An ip that somebody else might have used  
> for sending
> spam the I cannot use it for sending emails. An ip that nobody  
> knows not even me.
> If I dont disconnect and reconnect my provider will do that for me  
> once every
> 24 hours. That is the world of P2P users and services like no-ip.com .
>
> How do these hosts know eachother? How do they find eachother. How  
> do they
> connect? How do they identify?
>
> There is live outside DNS. I have met them.
>
> Before we had DNS there was /etc/hosts and there still is NIS. NIS+  
> might have
> become DNS but SUN has given up. It does not scale up.
>
> Still there is P2P. It is losely connected to DNS by services like  
> no-ip.com
>
> Does P2P really need static ip addresses?.
>
> The DSLAM the concentrator and router I am connected to, manages  
> some 4K addresses.
> To find echnaton.serveftp.com just try 4K ip addresses and you have  
> got me.
>
> If only 100 hosts of those 4K possible addresses in the voicinity  
> of frankfurt on
> main, germany had a P2P-nameservice running you would only have to  
> ask 40 addresses
> to get me.
>
> You got me?
>
> Have a nice weekend
>
> regards,
> Peter and Karin Dambier
> Public-Root
>
>
>
>
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