[OTR-dev] mpOTR redux - now in git

Nadim Kobeissi nadim at nadim.cc
Thu Feb 14 20:56:04 EST 2013

In the discussion that you linked to (
https://github.com/ioerror/mpOTR/issues/2), you only agreed to take up your
responsibility to credit the original authors after I repeatedly requested
it five or six times. There are still problems:

   1. You are refusing to license the research under its original license.
   You are committing a breach of our AGPLv3 license. Please license the work
   clearly under the AGPLv3 immediately.
   2. Pursuant with the attribution requirements of the AGPLv3, please make
   sure you correctly attribute the original licensees.

Anyone who reads our discussion at
https://github.com/ioerror/mpOTR/issues/2can see that you are
absolutely acting in bad faith. Please do the very
minimum and license your fork under the AGPLv3, with proper license
attribution. Anything less is unacceptable.

And I completely refuse to take this discussion of the OTR-dev list. It is
absolutely relevant to this list, many of the contributors are on this list
and I would most certainly like you to be held accountable for your
behaviour in bad faith.


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net>wrote:

> Meredith L. Patterson:
> > I don't mean to speak for Nadim here, but I suspect at least some of
> > his concern stems from the redaction of the endnotes in section 10 of
> > the document on the Cryptocat wiki[1], which read "Special thanks to
> > Jacob Appelbaum, Joseph Bonneau, [&c]", to your version[2], which
> > reads "This document was authored by a number of anonymous
> > contributors". You were credited, Jake, and it is disingenous and
> > derailing of you to attempt to claim that Nadim did not credit you or
> > "think[s] that you own [your] work product."
> >
> > As the academics among us on this list are well aware, plagiarism is a
> > serious concern. I personally have seen far too many instances of
> > plagiarism or likely plagiarism swept under the rug -- including the
> > one that led me to quit my PhD -- to be comfortable with seeing this
> > matter "resolved" behind closed doors; I would prefer to see it dealt
> > with right here where you brought it up by failing to properly credit
> > Nadim's work.
> >
> Hi Meredith,
> I believe you are mistaken and looking at the CrytoCat specification
> located here:
> https://github.com/cryptocat/cryptocat/wiki/Multiparty-Protocol-Specification
> The mpOTR specification that I co-authored is a totally different
> document and has no attributions whatsoever in the wiki history or in
> the wiki page itself:
>  https://github.com/cryptocat/cryptocat/wiki/mpOTR-Specification
> Comparing the first two documents and the mpOTR spec in git should
> clearly indicate that they are different documents. In fact, the current
> git repo that I am managing actually properly credits everyone that I
> remember as even having discussed the topic, including Nadim!
> Once, we did have some attribution in git history (commits, etc) but it
> was lost when Nadim moved it to the wiki. Ironically, no one was
> credited in the CryptoCat document except for Nadim.
> As I have said previously, I am a co-author of that document and I have
> never signed a copyright assignment to the CryptoCat project. So, if
> someone is going to claim plagiarism, claiming to own the document
> wholesale is pretty unreasonable. In any case, Nadim has just declared
> his contributions under the AGPL:
> https://github.com/ioerror/mpOTR/issues/2#issuecomment-13589031 I have
> thus documented it in the git repository.
> Again, if something is missing, I'm happy to add it. I do believe that I
> have added everyone that has made contributions and who was comfortable
> being credited in public on such a document.
> And again, lets please take this off of the OTR-dev list - it is sure to
> be annoying to everyone!
> All the best,
> Jake
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