[OTR-dev] Pidgin plugin development and GUI look

[Ian Goldberg]

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:14:38PM +0200, hcat at gmx.net wrote:
> > I wanted at least some help text that doesn't entail going to the web.
> > You're suggesting just having "What's this?" open the HTML widget
> > directly, with the current first-level text as its first paragraph?
> 
> I didn't realize that it embeds a HTML widget. I just don't see the
> need for two expanders here, if a user really wants some help text
> he/she will most likely open the second expander as well, just to see
> what's written there.

I can see about making this change.  Not today, though.

> I just ran a few more tests with different GTK themes and engines and
> it looks like most are affected. Only the very basic ones display
> "correctly"... Not sure if this is a GTK or engine bug though.

In any event, I'm pretty sure it's nothing we can fix.

> I understand this now, but I take it for a bad sign that I was not
> able to get the meaning myself. But indeed not easy to solve...

But even if you don't understand why it's there, it's at worst
a bit redundant.

> > We left the button available for people who want something like this.
> > Do you think this is vitally important?  (Do most people leave that
> > toolbar visible at all?)

> I didn't know the toolbar can be disabled... IMHO the old button takes
> a way too much space. Integrating the OTR status into the toolbar
> (like http://blog.pesa.se/2007/09/25/goodbye-big-bloated-otr-button/)
> doesn't change the pidgin UI too much but still shows the OTR status
> very nicely.

Yes, I totally agree.  We just need (a) to find a way to do it that
still allows for multiple conversations, and (b) someone to actually do
it once we figure out what ought to be done.

   - Ian