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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">This reminds me of something which should probably get a mention here: Dark Mail.</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">Ladar Levison (Lavabit) and part of the Silent Circle team are working on a new set of email-replacement protocols they're calling "Dark Mail" and they've started this </font><a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ladar/lavabits-dark-mail-initiative" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;">Kickstarter project</font></a><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;"> to fund it.  Levison's won some deep respect from me for unemploying himself by shutting his company down cold turkey and destroying his data in anticipation of governmental data demands.  (which earned him some legal problems for which he's </font><a href="https://rally.org/lavabit" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" 
style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;">asking for donations </font></a><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">)</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">At the top of that Kickstarter page there's currently this </font><a href="https://d2pq0u4uni88oo.cloudfront..net/projects/724893/video-309905-h264_high.mp4" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;">video</font></a><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;"> and in it one of the things they talk about is which encryption protocols they'll be using.</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">The thing that struck me is that they estimated the amount of time their encryption should hold out for and I think the amount of time they estimated was less than 100 years.  Given who these guys are and what they know they're up against, I would have thought they'd be using some seriously overkill encryption.  Maybe they are and they're just being realistic about the computers of the future; heck </font><a href="https://us2.startpage.com/do/metasearch.pl?query=quantum%20computer" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;">quantum computers</font></a><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;"> are supposed to exist now.  Or maybe they're trying to ease adoption by making the protocol less resource 
intensive.</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">--Bits</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Arial" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;"><b>"OpenSourceFan dcMhOYBdpZkH-at-web.de |otr/Example Allow|" <<a href="mailto:z6u4qi4gst@sneakemail.com">z6u4qi4gst@sneakemail.com</a>> writes:</b></font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">Now that we know that all the traffic is captured (NSA,Snowden) and there are big</font></span></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">buildings built with many computers to decrypt messages, don't</font></span></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">you devs think it's time to increase the bit size from 1536 to at least</font></span></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">2048 (NIST recommends at least 2048bit), before you switch to ECC because it's much faster to change the bit size than switching to ECC.</font></span></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_size#Asymmetric_algorithm_key_lengths" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_size#Asymmetric_algorithm_key_lengths</a></font></span></div>
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