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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">I changed my Pidgin settings to only connect to one ICQ account, then exited it and started it again with "pidgin -d > out.txt".</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">The initial connecting bit is about 370 lines.</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">After that I took note of the log contents and tried "OTR: Start private conversation" and it added these lines to the log:</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">-----</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">(22:34:29) oscar: Sending IM, charset=0x0000, length=290</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">(22:34:29) oscar: rate change (param ID 0x0001): curavg = 6000, maxavg = 6000, alert at 2000, clear warning at 2500, limit at 1500, disconnect at 800, delta is 569460, dropping is 0 (window size = 80)</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">(22:34:29) oscar: Sent message to 123456789.</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">-----</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">Then I sent over a message including only a single question mark and got basically these very similar lines (note the msg is much shorter - apparently 59 bites just to send my one-character message):</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">(22:38:33) oscar: Sending IM, charset=0x0000, length=59</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">(22:38:33) oscar: rate change (param ID 0x0001): curavg = 6000, maxavg = 6000, alert at 2000, clear warning at 2500, limit at 1500, disconnect at 800, delta is 813740, dropping is 0 (window size = 80)</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">(22:38:33) oscar: Sent message to 123456789.</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">-----</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">While I was typing up this email I notice a couple more lines getting added to the log:</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">(22:40:17) oscar: Scheduling destruction of FLAP connection 022C1BC0 of type 0x0010</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">(22:40:17) oscar: Destroying FLAP connection 022C1BC0</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">(22:40:17) oscar: Destroying oscar connection (022C1BC0) of type 0x0010. Disconnect reason is 4</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">(22:40:17) oscar: Disconnected. Code is 0x0000 and msg is Remote host closed connection.</font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">-----</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">Note that my private conversation has yet to start up, even after multiple clickings on "Start private conversation" and multiple simple messages to try to get it started.</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Calibri" size="+1" color="#000000" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14pt;color:#000000;">Thanks for looking into this!</font></div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><font face="Arial" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;"><b>"Ian Goldberg ian-at-cypherpunks.ca |otr/Example Allow|" <<a href="mailto:o6tl2bav6t@sneakemail.com">o6tl2bav6t@sneakemail.com</a>> writes:</b></font></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 03:53:50PM -0700, D.C. Williams wrote:</font></span></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">> Greg pointed out (thanks) that I didn't includei the protocol (AIM) and</font></span></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">> provider (AT&t direct, via non-AT&t proxies, and their cell network, with</font></span></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">> the same results on all three variants).</font></span></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">I just tried my own AIM account, and was successful in using OTR. Can</font></span></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">you use "pidgin -d" or wireshark or something like that to show the AIM</font></span></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">messages being sent and received on each side?</font></span></div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:left;"><span style="background-color:#d0d0d0;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">Thanks,</font></span></div>
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