From gmaxwell at gmail.com  Thu Sep 10 17:41:15 2009
From: gmaxwell at gmail.com (Gregory Maxwell)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:41:15 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] Support for Telepathy/Empathy
In-Reply-To: <20080903141349.GJ28608@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
References: <c73062a50809021710k519bfa1dv24763bd6bf59950a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080903141349.GJ28608@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
Message-ID: <e692861c0909101441m95fc411y8fe1eec3c89187d5@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Ian Goldberg <ian at cypherpunks.ca> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 02:10:40AM +0200, Hajo E. wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I would like to ask if there are any plans or thoughts of implementing OTR
>> into Telepathy [1]. A ticket [2] in the freedesktop bugzilla about this
>> alreday exists.
>
> We (the core OTR dev team) work on the library, and we can give
> assistance to people using the library to add OTR support to their IM
> applications. ?But we don't have the resources to do the application
> support ourselves, unfortunately.
>
> Someone from the Telepathy team would need to take the lead on this.

FYI? The next revision of Fedora is pushing users to Empathy rather
than pidgin. I believe ubuntu is doing this as well.

The Empathy developers describe OTR as "Broken by design" because it
is not protocol integrated and mock the people who request it:
http://resiak.livejournal.com/60614.html  So it seems that OTR support
is never going to happen there.

I'm pretty disappointed: Today 100% of my IM contacts have OTR
(primarily Mac users using Adium), and this required very little
prodding from me.  Soon this won't be true any more and I think thats
really unfortunate.


From perrin at apotheon.com  Thu Sep 10 19:24:36 2009
From: perrin at apotheon.com (Chad Perrin)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:24:36 -0600
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR support in CenterIM
Message-ID: <20090910232436.GA21716@kokopelli.hydra>

The OTR site still lists CenterIM as an "OTR-aware" application, and as
far as I've been able to determine it still doesn't support OTR.  A
couple years ago someone came up with a Jabber OTR patch for it, but it
wasn't accepted because of some of the changes it made to the system.
Even if it had been accepted into the CenterIM project, though, it would
only have provided OTR support for a single Jabber account, total.

Am I missing some later announcement of OTR support being added to
CenterIM, or is the inclusion of CenterIM amongst the "OTR-aware"
applications erroneous?

-- 
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth Henry Spencer: "Those who don't understand Unix are doomed to
reinvent it, poorly."
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From paul at cypherpunks.ca  Fri Sep 11 20:03:50 2009
From: paul at cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:03:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [OTR-users] Support for Telepathy/Empathy
In-Reply-To: <e692861c0909101441m95fc411y8fe1eec3c89187d5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c73062a50809021710k519bfa1dv24763bd6bf59950a@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Gregory Maxwell wrote:

>> Someone from the Telepathy team would need to take the lead on this.
>
> FYI? The next revision of Fedora is pushing users to Empathy rather
> than pidgin. I believe ubuntu is doing this as well.
>
> The Empathy developers describe OTR as "Broken by design" because it
> is not protocol integrated and mock the people who request it:
> http://resiak.livejournal.com/60614.html  So it seems that OTR support
> is never going to happen there.

Yes, they even personally blew an approved Google Summer of Code project
for OTR with Telepathy/Empathy out of the water. They basically only do
jabber and ssl, and have absolutely no clue whatsoever what it means
to have secure communication without digital signatures and plausible
deniability.

The whole point with OTR is being protocol-agnostic. It's not something
they can think about. They're too deep down in their RFC's and jabber code
to realise jabber is about 1% of the IM community out there in real life,
and so a "protocol hack" like OTR is the only thing that is going to work
to talk to your real life friends and family that are not CS PHD students.

There are many people who will never use their software. Not just because
of OTR, but also because they seem to think that they can convince everyone
to move away from MSN and AIM and Skype and Facebook IM, and join the Jabber
revolution. Their support for non-jabber is very minimalistic. They do not
listen or respect to the requirements of the community and therefor have
marginalised themselves.

I have no hope that Telepathy will ever get a serious userbase, even if
Fedora was so stupid as to make it their default IM client.

There. I feel much better now.

Paul


From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Fri Sep 11 21:08:34 2009
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:08:34 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR support in CenterIM
In-Reply-To: <20090910232436.GA21716@kokopelli.hydra>
References: <20090910232436.GA21716@kokopelli.hydra>
Message-ID: <20090912010834.GC11793@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:24:36PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> The OTR site still lists CenterIM as an "OTR-aware" application, and as
> far as I've been able to determine it still doesn't support OTR.  A
> couple years ago someone came up with a Jabber OTR patch for it, but it
> wasn't accepted because of some of the changes it made to the system.
> Even if it had been accepted into the CenterIM project, though, it would
> only have provided OTR support for a single Jabber account, total.
> 
> Am I missing some later announcement of OTR support being added to
> CenterIM, or is the inclusion of CenterIM amongst the "OTR-aware"
> applications erroneous?

It may be.  Can anyone else corroborate one way or the other?  I'd like
to correct the web page if it's wrong.

Thanks,

   - Ian


From junk at chassit.com  Fri Sep 11 23:05:47 2009
From: junk at chassit.com (Tree)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:05:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR support in CenterIM
In-Reply-To: <20090912010834.GC11793@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
References: <20090910232436.GA21716@kokopelli.hydra>
	<20090912010834.GC11793@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0909112255510.32741@jumbo.in.chassit.com>

On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Ian Goldberg wrote:

>> Am I missing some later announcement of OTR support being added to
>> CenterIM, or is the inclusion of CenterIM amongst the "OTR-aware"
>> applications erroneous?
>
> It may be.  Can anyone else corroborate one way or the other?  I'd like
> to correct the web page if it's wrong.

centerim supports OTR for jabber only, and it must be configured with a 
flag to enable it.

It would be relatively easy to add OTR support for more protocols in 
centerim. I've prototyped it for AIM in the past, and it worked, but 
wasn't stable. My C++ skills are too rusty. :(

-Tree


From perrin at apotheon.com  Sat Sep 12 00:40:04 2009
From: perrin at apotheon.com (Chad Perrin)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:40:04 -0600
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR support in CenterIM
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0909112255510.32741@jumbo.in.chassit.com>
References: <20090910232436.GA21716@kokopelli.hydra>
	<20090912010834.GC11793@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0909112255510.32741@jumbo.in.chassit.com>
Message-ID: <20090912044004.GB27091@kokopelli.hydra>

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:05:47PM -0400, Tree wrote:
> 
> It would be relatively easy to add OTR support for more protocols in 
> centerim. I've prototyped it for AIM in the past, and it worked, but 
> wasn't stable. My C++ skills are too rusty. :(

My C++ skills are probably worse, else I probably would have added OTR
support to CenterIM myself by now.  Since I don't foresee getting the
opportunity to brush up on C++ enough to do so any time soon, I rather
hope someone else does so.

-- 
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth Albert Camus: "An intellectual is someone whose mind watches
itself."
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From ananda.samaddar at vfemail.net  Sat Sep 12 11:19:29 2009
From: ananda.samaddar at vfemail.net (Ananda Samaddar)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:19:29 +0100
Subject: [OTR-users] Support for Telepathy/Empathy
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0909111954510.8557@newtla.xelerance.com>
References: <c73062a50809021710k519bfa1dv24763bd6bf59950a@mail.gmail.com>	<20080903141349.GJ28608@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca>	<e692861c0909101441m95fc411y8fe1eec3c89187d5@mail.gmail.com>
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Paul Wouters wrote:

> The whole point with OTR is being protocol-agnostic. It's not something
> they can think about. They're too deep down in their RFC's and jabber code
> to realise jabber is about 1% of the IM community out there in real life,
> and so a "protocol hack" like OTR is the only thing that is going to work
> to talk to your real life friends and family that are not CS PHD students.

You're forgetting all the Gmail users who'll also have a Google Talk 
account.  Gtalk uses Jabber, but most people should already know that

> I have no hope that Telepathy will ever get a serious userbase, even if
> Fedora was so stupid as to make it their default IM client.

You're referring to Empathy which uses Telepathy as its backend.  Both 
Fedora and Ubuntu are switching to using Empathy as the default IM 
client, so the situation is much worse than you imagined.

Ananda


From perrin at apotheon.com  Sun Sep 13 00:22:32 2009
From: perrin at apotheon.com (Chad Perrin)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:22:32 -0600
Subject: [OTR-users] Support for Telepathy/Empathy
In-Reply-To: <4AABBC01.8010309@vfemail.net>
References: <c73062a50809021710k519bfa1dv24763bd6bf59950a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080903141349.GJ28608@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
	<e692861c0909101441m95fc411y8fe1eec3c89187d5@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0909111954510.8557@newtla.xelerance.com>
	<4AABBC01.8010309@vfemail.net>
Message-ID: <20090913042232.GA32126@kokopelli.hydra>

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 04:19:29PM +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote:
> Paul Wouters wrote:
> 
> >The whole point with OTR is being protocol-agnostic. It's not something
> >they can think about. They're too deep down in their RFC's and jabber code
> >to realise jabber is about 1% of the IM community out there in real life,
> >and so a "protocol hack" like OTR is the only thing that is going to work
> >to talk to your real life friends and family that are not CS PHD students.
> 
> You're forgetting all the Gmail users who'll also have a Google Talk 
> account.  Gtalk uses Jabber, but most people should already know that

Most of them use the Web interface, though.

-- 
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth McCloctnick the Lucid: "The first rule of magic is simple. Don't
waste your time waving your hands and hopping when a rock or a club will
do."
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From casmls at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 13:13:12 2009
From: casmls at gmail.com (Christoph A.)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:13:12 +0200
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and psi+
Message-ID: <4AAE79A8.2080901@gmail.com>

Hi,

are you aware of any plugin/patch or proxy for psi+ (v0.14) to add OTR
support?
The patch for psi v0.13:
http://public.tfh-berlin.de/~s30935/

does not seam to apply.

thanks,
Christoph

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From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Mon Sep 14 14:56:50 2009
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:56:50 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and psi+
In-Reply-To: <4AAE79A8.2080901@gmail.com>
References: <4AAE79A8.2080901@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090914185650.GP27913@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca>

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 07:13:12PM +0200, Christoph A. wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> are you aware of any plugin/patch or proxy for psi+ (v0.14) to add OTR
> support?
> The patch for psi v0.13:
> http://public.tfh-berlin.de/~s30935/
> 
> does not seam to apply.

This is the first I've heard of Psi+.  You'd have to ask the author of
the Psi OTR plugin (the web page you linked to, above), I suppose.

   - Ian


From casmls at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 17:44:50 2009
From: casmls at gmail.com (Christoph A.)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:44:50 +0200
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and psi+
In-Reply-To: <20090914185650.GP27913@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
References: <4AAE79A8.2080901@gmail.com>
	<20090914185650.GP27913@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
Message-ID: <4AAEB952.9080108@gmail.com>

Thank you for your reply.

On 14.09.2009 20:56, Ian Goldberg wrote:
> This is the first I've heard of Psi+.  

This client is also new for me. I'm seeking support for a friend to
reach a high coverage.

> You'd have to ask the author of
> the Psi OTR plugin (the web page you linked to, above), I suppose.

I did so. I will let you know if there is a possiblity for Psi+ or if
this client should be avoided ;)

best regards,
Christoph

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From js-otrim at webkeks.org  Tue Sep 15 10:38:13 2009
From: js-otrim at webkeks.org (Jonathan Schleifer)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:38:13 +0200
Subject: [OTR-users] Support for Telepathy/Empathy
In-Reply-To: <e692861c0909101441m95fc411y8fe1eec3c89187d5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c73062a50809021710k519bfa1dv24763bd6bf59950a@mail.gmail.com>
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Am 10.09.2009 um 23:41 schrieb Gregory Maxwell:

> http://resiak.livejournal.com/60614.html

Maybe you should have a look at the date if the article itself wasn't  
obvious enough ;).

--
Jonathan

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From js-otrim at webkeks.org  Tue Sep 15 10:38:51 2009
From: js-otrim at webkeks.org (Jonathan Schleifer)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:38:51 +0200
Subject: [OTR-users] Support for Telepathy/Empathy
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0909111954510.8557@newtla.xelerance.com>
References: <c73062a50809021710k519bfa1dv24763bd6bf59950a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080903141349.GJ28608@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
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Paul Wouters <paul at cypherpunks.ca> wrote:

> They
> basically only do jabber and ssl, and have absolutely no clue
> whatsoever what it means to have secure communication without digital
> signatures and plausible deniability.

I guess they are planning to implement XTLS which is the
Jabber-equivalent to OTR, but done without hacks.

> The whole point with OTR is being protocol-agnostic. It's not
> something they can think about. They're too deep down in their RFC's
> and jabber code to realise jabber is about 1% of the IM community out
> there in real life, and so a "protocol hack" like OTR is the only
> thing that is going to work to talk to your real life friends and
> family that are not CS PHD students.

Yeah, like non CS PHD students care about cryptography ;). I guess more
users care about using Jabber than about using cryptography for their
instant messages.

Let's face it: OTR is designed for legacy networks, this is why it
doesn't get much love from the Jabber community. And honestly, it
really is a PITA for Jabber, as it does things like HTML messages in
the body whereas there is XHTML-IM for that.

-- 
Jonathan
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From mike at jadoti.com  Fri Sep 18 13:38:56 2009
From: mike at jadoti.com (Mike)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:38:56 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR on iPhone
Message-ID: <56471b1e0909181038xa41bf81x487692d097441efd@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,

I'm new to the list, so I apologize if this has been asked before, but I did
a cursory scan through the archives and didn't see anything...

Is there an iPhone client that supports OTR?

If not, has anyone taken on this task?

Thanks,
Mike
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From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Fri Sep 18 14:25:32 2009
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:25:32 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR on iPhone
In-Reply-To: <56471b1e0909181038xa41bf81x487692d097441efd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <56471b1e0909181038xa41bf81x487692d097441efd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090918182532.GI26140@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca>

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:38:56PM -0500, Mike wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I'm new to the list, so I apologize if this has been asked before, but I did
> a cursory scan through the archives and didn't see anything...
> 
> Is there an iPhone client that supports OTR?
> 
> If not, has anyone taken on this task?

I don't know of one.  BlackBerry and Android OTR clients should show up
not too long after our Java OTR library hits the streets (Soon!  We
promise!), but I don't know about iPhone.

   - Ian


From breaux at users.sourceforge.net  Tue Sep 22 11:42:30 2009
From: breaux at users.sourceforge.net (Doug Breaux)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:42:30 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] Dropped large messages with Pidgin 2.5.5, OTR	plugin,
 and Yahoo
In-Reply-To: <49C2569C.4060101@users.sourceforge.net>
References: <49C16F76.10206@users.sourceforge.net>	<20090318221200.GT28398@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
	<49C2569C.4060101@users.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <4AB8F066.1000207@users.sourceforge.net>

Doug Breaux wrote:
> Ian Goldberg wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 05:02:30PM -0500, Doug Breaux wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> I'm not sure when this started, but I did recently upgrade my Pidgin
>>> to 2.5.5 and I know that now if I send large messages encrypted with
>>> OTR over Yahoo (problem seemed to not occur over GTalk), they are
>>> dropped silently.
>>>
>>> I used to at least see a string of error messages when this kind of
>>> defect existed, but now neither I nor the recipient receive any
>>> indication at all.  (Me that there was a problem or him that any
>>> message was sent.)
>>>     
>>>       
>> Weird.  It sounds like the max message size of the Yahoo protocol has
>> gotten smaller (or maybe pidgin 2.5.5 adds more overhead?).
>>
>> You can try this:
>>
>> In your pidgin/purple directory (the same directory your
>> otr.private_keys file is in), make a text file called
>> otr.max_message_size and put this line in it:
>>
>> prpl-yahoo	800
>>
>> that's a tab between the protocol name and the number.
>>
>> See if that works.  Try slightly smaller numbers if it doesn't.  [The
>> default for yahoo is 832.]
>>
>> Please report back if making this number smaller fixes things.  (Or if
>> it doesn't, I guess.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>    - Ian
>>     
> Ok, thanks for at least something to try.  I'll have to wait until my
> "test partner" is back from vacation, but we'll try to
> see if we can find the limit.
>
> Doug
>   
FYI, Still happening in Pidgin 2.6.2, still only with Yahoo and OTR.
I've got a repeatable testcase now (first 2 paragraphs from the Pidgin
Wikipedia article), so I'm able to try some things.

I created the otr.max_message_size file with a value of 750 for
prpl-yahoo in C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\Application Data\.purple
(with a tab between the values), restarted Pidgin, and it still failed.
Should I keep trying smaller? I also happen to have the debug version of
Pidgin installed right now due to another problem, if that helps.

Note that on some send attempts, which I haven't yet seen a pattern for,
I receive an error message, "(10:32:07 AM) *Unable to send message: The
message is too large.*"  But subsequent attempts report no error at all,
they just don't deliver it.


From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Fri Sep 25 08:54:31 2009
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:54:31 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] Dropped large messages with Pidgin 2.5.5, OTR	plugin,
	and Yahoo
In-Reply-To: <4AB8F066.1000207@users.sourceforge.net>
References: <49C16F76.10206@users.sourceforge.net>
	<20090318221200.GT28398@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
	<49C2569C.4060101@users.sourceforge.net>
	<4AB8F066.1000207@users.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <20090925125431.GD21817@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca>

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:42:30AM -0500, Doug Breaux wrote:
> FYI, Still happening in Pidgin 2.6.2, still only with Yahoo and OTR.
> I've got a repeatable testcase now (first 2 paragraphs from the Pidgin
> Wikipedia article), so I'm able to try some things.
> 
> I created the otr.max_message_size file with a value of 750 for
> prpl-yahoo in C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\Application Data\.purple
> (with a tab between the values), restarted Pidgin, and it still failed.
> Should I keep trying smaller? I also happen to have the debug version of
> Pidgin installed right now due to another problem, if that helps.
> 
> Note that on some send attempts, which I haven't yet seen a pattern for,
> I receive an error message, "(10:32:07 AM) *Unable to send message: The
> message is too large.*"  But subsequent attempts report no error at all,
> they just don't deliver it.

Yes, try smaller values, if you don't mind.

Thanks,

   - Ian


From paul at cypherpunks.ca  Tue Sep 29 18:25:10 2009
From: paul at cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:25:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [OTR-users] otr4j: OTR java library
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0909291821300.13170@newtla.xelerance.com>


FYI,

http://code.google.com/p/otr4j/
http://otr4sipcomm.blogspot.com/

otr4j is an implementation of the OTR (Off The Record) protocol in java.

Paul


From paul at xelerance.com  Tue Sep 29 18:28:13 2009
From: paul at xelerance.com (Paul Wouters)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:28:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [OTR-users] otr4j: OTR java library
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0909291821300.13170@newtla.xelerance.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0909291821300.13170@newtla.xelerance.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0909291826540.13170@newtla.xelerance.com>

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Paul Wouters wrote:

> http://code.google.com/p/otr4j/
> http://otr4sipcomm.blogspot.com/
>
> otr4j is an implementation of the OTR (Off The Record) protocol in java.

I should have added: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/09/sip-communicators-summer-of-code.html

George Politis from Greece worked on extending SIP Communicator with
Off The Record (OTR) message encryption. OTR provides encryption,
authentication, deniability, and strong forward secrecy. Until now
SIP Communicator did not have any text message encryption and our
chats were often unprotected. George started with the implementation
of our own Open Source native java OTR library, which can also
be used in other projects. George also implemented all the message
transformation functionalities and the GUI necessary for us to integrate
OTR support in SIP Communicator. It is already implemented in many of
the other popular instant messengers such as Kopete, Pidgin, Adium,
mICQ, Miranda, and Trillian. SIP Communicator is now able to carry out
encrypted communications with other SIP Communicator clients and the
aforementioned messengers.

George's implementation has already been integrated in our source trunk
and George has achieved committer status for SIP Communicator with a
strong approval of our community.



From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Tue Sep 29 19:09:39 2009
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:09:39 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] otr4j: OTR java library
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0909291826540.13170@newtla.xelerance.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0909291821300.13170@newtla.xelerance.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0909291826540.13170@newtla.xelerance.com>
Message-ID: <20090929230939.GI31666@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:28:13PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Paul Wouters wrote:
>
>> http://code.google.com/p/otr4j/
>> http://otr4sipcomm.blogspot.com/
>>
>> otr4j is an implementation of the OTR (Off The Record) protocol in java.
>
> I should have added: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/09/sip-communicators-summer-of-code.html
>
> George Politis from Greece worked on extending SIP Communicator with
> Off The Record (OTR) message encryption. OTR provides encryption,
> authentication, deniability, and strong forward secrecy. Until now
> SIP Communicator did not have any text message encryption and our
> chats were often unprotected. George started with the implementation
> of our own Open Source native java OTR library, which can also
> be used in other projects. George also implemented all the message
> transformation functionalities and the GUI necessary for us to integrate
> OTR support in SIP Communicator. It is already implemented in many of
> the other popular instant messengers such as Kopete, Pidgin, Adium,
> mICQ, Miranda, and Trillian. SIP Communicator is now able to carry out
> encrypted communications with other SIP Communicator clients and the
> aforementioned messengers.
>
> George's implementation has already been integrated in our source trunk
> and George has achieved committer status for SIP Communicator with a
> strong approval of our community.

Sounds great!  FYI: our own Java version just today entered "package it
for release" status.  So probably tomorrow, but if not, Friday.  Watch
this space.

   - Ian


From alex-lg at mail.ru  Wed Sep 30 02:30:09 2009
From: alex-lg at mail.ru (Alex LG)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:30:09 +0400
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