From paul at cypherpunks.ca  Mon Nov  2 00:53:20 2009
From: paul at cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:53:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [OTR-users] AIM and shadow accounts
In-Reply-To: <4AE9CFDB.2030408@fenrir.org.uk>
References: <e692861c0910211434i7df10c70s3514210bb99c883b@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0910291254300.23513@newtla.xelerance.com>
	<4AE9CFDB.2030408@fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0911020052570.9499@newtla.xelerance.com>

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Brian Morrison wrote:

>>> As most OTR users on AIM know: If you log in from multiple places and
>>> talk to another OTR user you'll end up in an "OTR war" with the remote
>>> client that you can't hear.
>>
>> There is prerelease code you can grab from ftp.xelerance.com that have
>> incorporated the fixes for this. I've been running it for over a month
>> now.
>
> Er, prerelease code for what exactly? OTR, Pidgin, something else?

libotr and pidgin-otr.

Paul


From paul at darkrain42.org  Mon Nov  2 01:44:12 2009
From: paul at darkrain42.org (Paul Aurich)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:44:12 -0800
Subject: [OTR-users] AIM and shadow accounts
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0911020052570.9499@newtla.xelerance.com>
References: <e692861c0910211434i7df10c70s3514210bb99c883b@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0910291254300.23513@newtla.xelerance.com>
	<4AE9CFDB.2030408@fenrir.org.uk>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0911020052570.9499@newtla.xelerance.com>
Message-ID: <9F57C52A-B218-4EF8-A45F-66DBB6F46AFE@darkrain42.org>

On Nov 1, 2009, at 21:53, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Brian Morrison wrote:
>
>>>> As most OTR users on AIM know: If you log in from multiple places  
>>>> and
>>>> talk to another OTR user you'll end up in an "OTR war" with the  
>>>> remote
>>>> client that you can't hear.
>>>
>>> There is prerelease code you can grab from ftp.xelerance.com that  
>>> have
>>> incorporated the fixes for this. I've been running it for over a  
>>> month
>>> now.
>>
>> Er, prerelease code for what exactly? OTR, Pidgin, something else?
>
> libotr and pidgin-otr.
>
> Paul

Can you speak a little about how it works, or, at the very least,  
which clients need to be running new code for this to work?

For example, if Alice is trying to communicate with Bob (who is online  
from two locations), do they all need to be running the updated code  
or either user or one in particular?

Thanks,
~(another )Paul


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Mon Nov  2 03:03:11 2009
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:03:11 +0000
Subject: [OTR-users] AIM and shadow accounts
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0911020052570.9499@newtla.xelerance.com>
References: <e692861c0910211434i7df10c70s3514210bb99c883b@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0910291254300.23513@newtla.xelerance.com>
	<4AE9CFDB.2030408@fenrir.org.uk>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0911020052570.9499@newtla.xelerance.com>
Message-ID: <20091102080311.4dbe1177@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:53:20 -0500 (EST)
Paul Wouters <paul at cypherpunks.ca> wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Brian Morrison wrote:
> 
> >>> As most OTR users on AIM know: If you log in from multiple places and
> >>> talk to another OTR user you'll end up in an "OTR war" with the remote
> >>> client that you can't hear.
> >>
> >> There is prerelease code you can grab from ftp.xelerance.com that have
> >> incorporated the fixes for this. I've been running it for over a month
> >> now.
> >
> > Er, prerelease code for what exactly? OTR, Pidgin, something else?
> 
> libotr and pidgin-otr.

Right. Is the code available for Win32?

As it stands I have a mixture of AIM clients connected, so it's either
use this new code or set the accounts to not allow multiple connections.

When can we expect it to be released?

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Mon Nov  2 07:18:20 2009
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:18:20 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] AIM and shadow accounts
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0910291254300.23513@newtla.xelerance.com>
References: <e692861c0910211434i7df10c70s3514210bb99c883b@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0910291254300.23513@newtla.xelerance.com>
Message-ID: <20091102121820.GM7440@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:56:55PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>
>> As most OTR users on AIM know: If you log in from multiple places and
>> talk to another OTR user you'll end up in an "OTR war" with the remote
>> client that you can't hear.
>
> There is prerelease code you can grab from ftp.xelerance.com that have
> incorporated the fixes for this. I've been running it for over a month
> now.

Note that this prerelease code will *not* be compatible with the
eventual release!

*DO NOT* distribute this code beyond simple testing purposes, or we'll
have a problem when the release occurs...

   - Ian


From gmaxwell at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 09:12:08 2009
From: gmaxwell at gmail.com (Gregory Maxwell)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:12:08 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] AIM and shadow accounts
In-Reply-To: <20091102121820.GM7440@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
References: <e692861c0910211434i7df10c70s3514210bb99c883b@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0910291254300.23513@newtla.xelerance.com>
	<20091102121820.GM7440@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
Message-ID: <e692861c0911020612s2d8ac742rab483258dec285fc@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Ian Goldberg <ian at cypherpunks.ca> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:56:55PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>>
>>> As most OTR users on AIM know: If you log in from multiple places and
>>> talk to another OTR user you'll end up in an "OTR war" with the remote
>>> client that you can't hear.
>>
>> There is prerelease code you can grab from ftp.xelerance.com that have
>> incorporated the fixes for this. I've been running it for over a month
>> now.
>
> Note that this prerelease code will *not* be compatible with the
> eventual release!
>
> *DO NOT* distribute this code beyond simple testing purposes, or we'll
> have a problem when the release occurs...

I think it would be interesting and productive to hear a description
of how the functionality is expected to work. (I could go grok it out
from that code, but if it won't be the same?)


From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Tue Nov  3 15:23:11 2009
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:23:11 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] AIM and shadow accounts
In-Reply-To: <e692861c0911020612s2d8ac742rab483258dec285fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e692861c0910211434i7df10c70s3514210bb99c883b@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0910291254300.23513@newtla.xelerance.com>
	<20091102121820.GM7440@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>
	<e692861c0911020612s2d8ac742rab483258dec285fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091103202311.GJ21732@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca>

On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 10:12:08AM -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Ian Goldberg <ian at cypherpunks.ca> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:56:55PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
> >> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> >>
> >>> As most OTR users on AIM know: If you log in from multiple places and
> >>> talk to another OTR user you'll end up in an "OTR war" with the remote
> >>> client that you can't hear.
> >>
> >> There is prerelease code you can grab from ftp.xelerance.com that have
> >> incorporated the fixes for this. I've been running it for over a month
> >> now.
> >
> > Note that this prerelease code will *not* be compatible with the
> > eventual release!
> >
> > *DO NOT* distribute this code beyond simple testing purposes, or we'll
> > have a problem when the release occurs...
> 
> I think it would be interesting and productive to hear a description
> of how the functionality is expected to work. (I could go grok it out
> from that code, but if it won't be the same?)

At a very high level, it adds "instance" tags to each message, which
perform roughly the same role as XMPP's resources, but for networks that
don't support such a concept.  Each client occasionally picks a random
instance tag for each of its accounts, and attaches that as the source
instance to all outgoing messages.  Replies (say in the key exchange
part of the protocol) include that value in the destination instance
field.  In general, you add a destination instance to a message if the
message will only make sense to a particular client who has chosen some
particular short-lived secret key.  Other clients should ignore the
message or (optionally) let the user know that there are messages being
directed to some other instance of himself.

Note that this requires a change to the wire protocol, and so a rev of
the wire protocol version to OTRv3.  There will be other changes in
OTRv3 as well (may as well do them all at the same time), which is why
the code in Paul's ftp will be incompatible with the wire protocol that
eventually gets released as OTRv3.

We have to be very careful to account for situations where one user is
logged in multiple times, some of which speak v3, and some of which
don't.  Paul says he's discovered bugs remaining in instances like
those, so closer examination is in order.

   - Ian


From chris_garriss at unc.edu  Tue Nov  3 15:40:08 2009
From: chris_garriss at unc.edu (Chris Garriss)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:40:08 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and GTalk
Message-ID: <4AF09528.5020509@unc.edu>

Ever since the last Pidgin upgrade, with GTalk I get (and so do others I
know of) loads of OTR errors.  This does not happen with Yahoo, AIM or
any other protocol.  Anyone else seeing this, and any solutions?

Chris

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From ananda.samaddar at vfemail.net  Tue Nov  3 15:57:28 2009
From: ananda.samaddar at vfemail.net (Ananda Samaddar)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:57:28 +0000
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and GTalk
In-Reply-To: <4AF09528.5020509@unc.edu>
References: <4AF09528.5020509@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <20091103205728.0cea58ea@ananda-desktop>

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:40:08 -0500
Chris Garriss <chris_garriss at unc.edu> wrote:

> Ever since the last Pidgin upgrade, with GTalk I get (and so do
> others I know of) loads of OTR errors.  This does not happen with
> Yahoo, AIM or any other protocol.  Anyone else seeing this, and any
> solutions?
> 
> Chris
> 

I'm not seeing this at all using Pidgin 2.6.3 on Arch Linux.  I've got
a normal xmpp account on jabber.org and my contact was using Gtalk
through Pidgin 2.6.3 on Windows.

You'll need to supply a bit more info.  Client version, operating
system etc to get specific help.

Ananda


From lance at thehaverkamps.net  Tue Nov  3 16:04:28 2009
From: lance at thehaverkamps.net (Lance W. Haverkamp)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:04:28 -0700
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and GTalk
In-Reply-To: <20091103205728.0cea58ea@ananda-desktop>
References: <4AF09528.5020509@unc.edu> <20091103205728.0cea58ea@ananda-desktop>
Message-ID: <4AF09ADC.3000900@TheHaverkamps.net>

Ditto here.  All is fine on Mepis (Debain) Linux, using Pidgin.  Can
chat over Google Chat just fine.


on 11/03/2009 01:57 PM Ananda Samaddar said the following:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:40:08 -0500
> Chris Garriss <chris_garriss at unc.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Ever since the last Pidgin upgrade, with GTalk I get (and so do
>> others I know of) loads of OTR errors.  This does not happen with
>> Yahoo, AIM or any other protocol.  Anyone else seeing this, and any
>> solutions?
>>
>> Chris
>>
> 
> I'm not seeing this at all using Pidgin 2.6.3 on Arch Linux.  I've got
> a normal xmpp account on jabber.org and my contact was using Gtalk
> through Pidgin 2.6.3 on Windows.
> 
> You'll need to supply a bit more info.  Client version, operating
> system etc to get specific help.
> 
> Ananda
> _______________________________________________
> OTR-users mailing list
> OTR-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca
> http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users


-- 


Thanks!

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From chris_garriss at unc.edu  Tue Nov  3 16:21:40 2009
From: chris_garriss at unc.edu (Chris Garriss)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:21:40 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and GTalk
In-Reply-To: <20091103205728.0cea58ea@ananda-desktop>
References: <4AF09528.5020509@unc.edu> <20091103205728.0cea58ea@ananda-desktop>
Message-ID: <4AF09EE4.3050908@unc.edu>

Version 2.6.3, OTR 3.2.0, operating system Win XP Professional SP3,
fully patched.  Symantec Corporate 10.1.6.6010, Microsoft Office 2007
Professional, 4 GB memory installed (of course only 3 available to
windows), 150 GB HD, 70% available.  Any other info you want / would be
helpful?

On 03.11.2009 15:57  Ananda Samaddar spoke thusly:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:40:08 -0500
> Chris Garriss <chris_garriss at unc.edu> wrote:
>
>   
>> Ever since the last Pidgin upgrade, with GTalk I get (and so do
>> others I know of) loads of OTR errors.  This does not happen with
>> Yahoo, AIM or any other protocol.  Anyone else seeing this, and any
>> solutions?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>     
>
> I'm not seeing this at all using Pidgin 2.6.3 on Arch Linux.  I've got
> a normal xmpp account on jabber.org and my contact was using Gtalk
> through Pidgin 2.6.3 on Windows.
>
> You'll need to supply a bit more info.  Client version, operating
> system etc to get specific help.
>
> Ananda
> _______________________________________________
> OTR-users mailing list
> OTR-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca
> http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users
>
>   


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From chris_garriss at unc.edu  Tue Nov  3 16:26:33 2009
From: chris_garriss at unc.edu (Chris Garriss)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:26:33 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and GTalk
In-Reply-To: <4AF09ADC.3000900@TheHaverkamps.net>
References: <4AF09528.5020509@unc.edu> <20091103205728.0cea58ea@ananda-desktop>
	<4AF09ADC.3000900@TheHaverkamps.net>
Message-ID: <4AF0A009.9000209@unc.edu>

My brother in Canada (Quebec) also using XP SP3, fully patched, is also
having the problem, as is my sister in MD (USA).  Same issue with a few
other people I use Google with via Pidgin, plus they are having problems
with other people.  If we switch over to Yahoo (via Pidgin), no problems
at all.

On 03.11.2009 16:04  Lance W. Haverkamp spoke thusly:
> Ditto here.  All is fine on Mepis (Debain) Linux, using Pidgin.  Can
> chat over Google Chat just fine.
>
>
> on 11/03/2009 01:57 PM Ananda Samaddar said the following:
>   
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:40:08 -0500
>> Chris Garriss <chris_garriss at unc.edu> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Ever since the last Pidgin upgrade, with GTalk I get (and so do
>>> others I know of) loads of OTR errors.  This does not happen with
>>> Yahoo, AIM or any other protocol.  Anyone else seeing this, and any
>>> solutions?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>       
>> I'm not seeing this at all using Pidgin 2.6.3 on Arch Linux.  I've got
>> a normal xmpp account on jabber.org and my contact was using Gtalk
>> through Pidgin 2.6.3 on Windows.
>>
>> You'll need to supply a bit more info.  Client version, operating
>> system etc to get specific help.
>>
>> Ananda
>> _______________________________________________
>> OTR-users mailing list
>> OTR-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca
>> http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users
>>     
>
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From marti at juffo.org  Tue Nov  3 21:09:50 2009
From: marti at juffo.org (Marti Raudsepp)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 04:09:50 +0200
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and GTalk
In-Reply-To: <4AF0A009.9000209@unc.edu>
References: <4AF09528.5020509@unc.edu>
	<20091103205728.0cea58ea@ananda-desktop> 
	<4AF09ADC.3000900@TheHaverkamps.net> <4AF0A009.9000209@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <54b33ccd0911031809h76e44d1br1ececff6015cbbef@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Chris Garriss <chris_garriss at unc.edu> wrote:
> My brother in Canada (Quebec) also using XP SP3, fully patched, is also
> having the problem, as is my sister in MD (USA).? Same issue with a few
> other people I use Google with via Pidgin, plus they are having problems
> with other people.? If we switch over to Yahoo (via Pidgin), no problems at
> all.

I suspect this happens because OTR does not cooperate with Google Talk
multiple logins.

To reproduce, try connecting to Google Talk with 2 separate sessions,
and use OTR on both. Then ask someone else with OTR to contact you.
Sparks will fly.

Regards,
Marti


From chris_garriss at unc.edu  Tue Nov  3 21:15:29 2009
From: chris_garriss at unc.edu (Chris Garriss)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:15:29 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and GTalk
In-Reply-To: <54b33ccd0911031809h76e44d1br1ececff6015cbbef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AF09528.5020509@unc.edu> <20091103205728.0cea58ea@ananda-desktop>
	<4AF09ADC.3000900@TheHaverkamps.net> <4AF0A009.9000209@unc.edu>
	<54b33ccd0911031809h76e44d1br1ececff6015cbbef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AF0E3C1.9000601@unc.edu>


On 03.11.2009 21:09  Marti Raudsepp spoke thusly:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Chris Garriss <chris_garriss at unc.edu> wrote:
>   
>> My brother in Canada (Quebec) also using XP SP3, fully patched, is also
>> having the problem, as is my sister in MD (USA).  Same issue with a few
>> other people I use Google with via Pidgin, plus they are having problems
>> with other people.  If we switch over to Yahoo (via Pidgin), no problems at
>> all.
>>     
>
> I suspect this happens because OTR does not cooperate with Google Talk
> multiple logins.
>
> To reproduce, try connecting to Google Talk with 2 separate sessions,
> and use OTR on both. Then ask someone else with OTR to contact you.
> Sparks will fly.
>
> Regards,
> Marti
>
>   
I've most often had only one session - and that to a single person -
with this happening.  90% of the time I have been chatting with no one
other than my brother - no other sessions active or passive with any client

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From chris_garriss at unc.edu  Tue Nov  3 21:35:46 2009
From: chris_garriss at unc.edu (Chris Garriss)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:35:46 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and GTalk
In-Reply-To: <4AF0E3C1.9000601@unc.edu>
References: <4AF09528.5020509@unc.edu>
	<20091103205728.0cea58ea@ananda-desktop>	<4AF09ADC.3000900@TheHaverkamps.net>
	<4AF0A009.9000209@unc.edu>	<54b33ccd0911031809h76e44d1br1ececff6015cbbef@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AF0E3C1.9000601@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <4AF0E882.8040202@unc.edu>

On 03.11.2009 21:15  Chris Garriss spoke thusly:
> On 03.11.2009 21:09  Marti Raudsepp spoke thusly:
>   
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Chris Garriss <chris_garriss at unc.edu> wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> My brother in Canada (Quebec) also using XP SP3, fully patched, is also
>>> having the problem, as is my sister in MD (USA).  Same issue with a few
>>> other people I use Google with via Pidgin, plus they are having problems
>>> with other people.  If we switch over to Yahoo (via Pidgin), no problems at
>>> all.
>>>     
>>>       
>> I suspect this happens because OTR does not cooperate with Google Talk
>> multiple logins.
>>
>> To reproduce, try connecting to Google Talk with 2 separate sessions,
>> and use OTR on both. Then ask someone else with OTR to contact you.
>> Sparks will fly.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Marti
>>
>>   
>>     
> I've most often had only one session - and that to a single person -
> with this happening.  90% of the time I have been chatting with no one
> other than my brother - no other sessions active or passive with any client
>
>   

One final thought, I almost never have had GMail, Google Docs or any
other Google App open when this was occurring.
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From paul at cypherpunks.ca  Thu Nov  5 09:16:09 2009
From: paul at cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:16:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and GTalk
In-Reply-To: <4AF0A009.9000209@unc.edu>
References: <4AF09528.5020509@unc.edu> <20091103205728.0cea58ea@ananda-desktop>
	<4AF09ADC.3000900@TheHaverkamps.net> <4AF0A009.9000209@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0911050915040.27984@newtla.xelerance.com>

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, Chris Garriss wrote:

> My brother in Canada (Quebec) also using XP SP3, fully patched, is also having the problem, as is my
> sister in MD (USA).? Same issue with a few other people I use Google with via Pidgin, plus they are having
> problems with other people.? If we switch over to Yahoo (via Pidgin), no problems at all.

It most likely has to do with multiple jabber instances being logged in.

People who login from multiple locations at once, can see the "OTR war"
between their multiple instances. This has been fixed and should come
out this month.

Paul


From xecrav at gmail.com  Wed Nov 11 16:07:16 2009
From: xecrav at gmail.com (|-RJ-|)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:07:16 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and Portable Pidgin Fatal Errors
Message-ID: <3ff86020911111307l210f2bb5t5a533f4e5862554a@mail.gmail.com>

Recently I have been encountering a major problem with pidgin portable. This
problem is complete software shutdown when receiving sending a files via
AIM.

I use pidgin to communicate with collies, costumers and friends and our
conversations are mostly OTR-Private. I've been using OTR for about a month
now and it works as advertised. I love it. Which is why I would hate if I
were to have to let it go. I come here in hopes of finding a solution and
hopefully giving back to the OTR community by reporting a valid bug.

This installation if of Pidgin Portable 2.6.3 with OTR 3.2.0 directly on a
Netbook running Windows XP.

I've done some troubleshooting myself and here is what I've found.

-Since the OTR Menu and Icon item found on the IM window menu-bar serves is
purpose flawlessly, I've unchecked the OTR UI >>> Show OTR button in toolbar
option. For me it only takes much needed space.

When that option is unchecked:

I start Pidgin as usual and login. Now when I open a IM windows the
following Fatal Error shows up on the Debug Window. -It doesn't matter if
the conversation is tabbed or not- Each new IM window you open will report
the following error.

*Gtk: gtk_container_remove: assertion `GTK_IS_TOOLBAR (container) ||
widget->parent == GTK_WIDGET (container)' failed*

Now if I were to go to the Plugins/OTR Option and check the OTR UI >>> Show
OTR button in toolbar option, the following Fatal errors are reported. [This
also happens if I were to start Pidgin with the OTR UI >>> Show OTR button
in toolbar option uncheck and were to go and chec- it]

*Gtk: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
Gtk: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
Gtk: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
Gtk: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
*

Moreover doing this seems to reloads all load correctly but perl.dll fails
to do so. The file is there so I don't know why this happens.

~\perl.dll is not loadable: The specified module could not be found.

Also

*wpurple:* Could not open reg key 'HKLM' subkey
'SOFTWARE\ActiveState\ActiveTcl\'.
Message: (2) The system cannot find the file specified.
*wpurple:* Could not open reg key 'HKCU' subkey
'SOFTWARE\ActiveState\ActiveTcl\'.
Message: (2) The system cannot find the file specified.

The tcl.dll files is present too under the plugin directory

Again, this errors only show when checking and unchecking the OTR UI >>>
Show OTR button in toolbar option.


Any help and tips will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.





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From nieves at inbox.com  Fri Nov 13 12:59:42 2009
From: nieves at inbox.com (Steve Nieves)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:59:42 -0800
Subject: [OTR-users] otr IM on a portable device?
Message-ID: <4AFD9E8E.4030101@inbox.com>

Hi.  I have been using Pidgin and otr for the past few weeks and think 
it is excellent.  However, I would really like an implementation of otr 
on any IM client which runs on an easily portable handheld device. 
Something smaller than a netbook perhaps.  Does such a thing exist?  
I've done some cursory searches that have not yielded anything.  The 
mailing lists archives do not seem to be searchable  - is that correct?  
Any information is appreciated.  Thanks.

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From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Fri Nov 13 20:30:42 2009
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:30:42 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and Portable Pidgin Fatal Errors
In-Reply-To: <3ff86020911111307l210f2bb5t5a533f4e5862554a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3ff86020911111307l210f2bb5t5a533f4e5862554a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091114013042.GO18207@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 04:07:16PM -0500, [|-RJ-|] wrote:
> Recently I have been encountering a major problem with pidgin portable. This
> problem is complete software shutdown when receiving sending a files via
> AIM.

Hmm.  Thanks for the report.  The debugging you attach, however, doesn't
appear to involve file transfers at all.  Do file transfers fail for you
regardless of the OTR button visibility?  Can you debug what happens
when you attempt a file transfer?

Note: at this time, file transfers are *not* encrypted.  It's in the
queue, though...

   - Ian


From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Fri Nov 13 20:33:41 2009
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:33:41 -0500
Subject: [OTR-users] otr IM on a portable device?
In-Reply-To: <4AFD9E8E.4030101@inbox.com>
References: <4AFD9E8E.4030101@inbox.com>
Message-ID: <20091114013341.GP18207@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca>

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 09:59:42AM -0800, Steve Nieves wrote:
> Hi.  I have been using Pidgin and otr for the past few weeks and think  
> it is excellent.  However, I would really like an implementation of otr  
> on any IM client which runs on an easily portable handheld device.  
> Something smaller than a netbook perhaps.  Does such a thing exist?   
> I've done some cursory searches that have not yielded anything.  The  
> mailing lists archives do not seem to be searchable  - is that correct?   

Not natively, but there's Google.  Search for something like:

otr-users blackberry site:lists.cypherpunks.ca

> Any information is appreciated.  Thanks.

We will hopefully have something working on the BlackBerry soon...

   - Ian