From im_hard_4_u2000 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 5 17:27:03 2009 From: im_hard_4_u2000 at yahoo.com (rrrr aaa) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:27:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [OTR-users] Vista Message-ID: <841619.28623.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> How do I get otr to work on Vista??? From roy at rant-central.com Mon Jan 5 17:38:33 2009 From: roy at rant-central.com (Roy M. Silvernail) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:38:33 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Vista In-Reply-To: <841619.28623.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <841619.28623.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49628BE9.1050606@rant-central.com> rrrr aaa wrote: > How do I get otr to work on Vista??? Install it? Works fine under Vista for me. -- Roy M. Silvernail is roy at rant-central.com, and you're not "It's just this little chromium switch, here." - TFT http://www.rant-central.com From cognitive.libertarian+ml at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 23:08:15 2009 From: cognitive.libertarian+ml at gmail.com (Justin Gombos) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:08:15 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Initiating OTR from an irssi client to pidgin In-Reply-To: <20081209174804.GB8675@gmail.com> References: <20081129235350.GA13711@lenny.local> <20081201114329.GA8316@gmail.com> <20081201184235.GA4855@lenny.local> <20081202100222.GA7784@gmail.com> <20081206222835.GB4740@lenny.local> <20081209174804.GB8675@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090106040815.GB7813@lenny.local> * Uli M [2008-12-09 19:03]: > > If OTR works when the other end initiates then you definitely have a > key already. That you can't initiate an OTR session just by typing > something might also have something to do with the settings of the > other guy...what you can try is to write ?OTR?, that should force > the start of a session. Thanks for the tip.. manually sending ?OTR? worked. From lorddefinitia at gmail.com Sun Jan 11 11:09:12 2009 From: lorddefinitia at gmail.com (Basaslan) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:09:12 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Puzzling behaviour in XP with AIM 6 Message-ID: Greetings, I am an avid user of pidgin and otr, however others I know for mysterious reasons refuse to use pidgin and instead prefer closed source messaging solutions such as AIM 6 for the windows platforms. Said users are not always the most tech-savy, and hence I was recently attempting to do a screencast to help out said users with setting up the otrproxy software. However, I myself ran into technical difficulties myself, as the otrproxy seems to be lacking mysteriously important components/instructions. Running on an XP SP3 machine with all the updates installed, a Windows Firewall (disabled), Comodo (Firewall disabled), Avast and Norton Antivirus (no firewall to speak of) and AIM 6, simply starting the "otrproxy.exe" brings up a gui when either double clicked or run from the command line, and setting AIM 6 to a socks5 proxy at 127.0.0.1 with port 1080 does nothing for me...I've tried changing it to https and 8080, but that doesn't seem to make any difference. Help, please? AIM 6 connects fine without the proxy, and there doesn't seem to be any way to verify whether otrproxy is actually running, much less any instructions or tools to get it working. I've tried searching on the web, but google seems heavily biased towards mac users :( Again, help would be appreciated, this is not as much for my sake as for getting other obstinate users to use encryption, so that I myself and others may communicate securely with them. Thanks In Advance From ian at cypherpunks.ca Mon Jan 12 08:17:30 2009 From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:17:30 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Puzzling behaviour in XP with AIM 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090112131730.GB22477@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 11:09:12AM -0500, Basaslan wrote: > Greetings, > > I am an avid user of pidgin and otr, however others I know for > mysterious reasons refuse to use pidgin and instead prefer closed > source messaging solutions such as AIM 6 for the windows platforms. > Said users are not always the most tech-savy, and hence I was recently > attempting to do a screencast to help out said users with setting up > the otrproxy software. > > However, I myself ran into technical difficulties myself, as the > otrproxy seems to be lacking mysteriously important > components/instructions. Running on an XP SP3 machine with all the > updates installed, a Windows Firewall (disabled), Comodo (Firewall > disabled), Avast and Norton Antivirus (no firewall to speak of) and > AIM 6, simply starting the "otrproxy.exe" brings up a gui when either > double clicked or run from the command line, and setting AIM 6 to a > socks5 proxy at 127.0.0.1 with port 1080 does nothing for me... Can you try "telnet 127.0.0.1 1080" from a command line (assuming you have a telnet command-line client installed) and see if there's indeed something listening? You can also try launching otrproxy from a command line and see if it outputs anything helpful. Unfortunately, we've got no one actively working on otrproxy right now, so it's bound to get a little stale. :-( - Ian From ananda.samaddar at vfemail.net Sun Jan 25 23:00:40 2009 From: ananda.samaddar at vfemail.net (Ananda Samaddar) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:00:40 +0000 Subject: [OTR-users] Kopete and OTR Message-ID: <200901260400.40363.ananda.samaddar@vfemail.net> It's probably worth noting on the OTR website that the from KDE 4.1 onwards, Kopete supports OTR 'out of the box'. The list of OTR enable software still refers to a the plugin as 3rd party, but is merged in the main KDE distribution. Also I had this sent to me by a KDE dev when I reported a bug w.r.t lack of OTR in Kopete for Windows: 'I'm sorry but libotr depends so heavily on gtk libs that I'm unable to compile it on windows - we then must build nearly all base gtk libs just for this plugin.' Is this really true? That libotr depends on gtk? thanks, Ananda From paul at cypherpunks.ca Mon Jan 26 09:42:22 2009 From: paul at cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:42:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [OTR-users] Kopete and OTR In-Reply-To: <200901260400.40363.ananda.samaddar@vfemail.net> References: <200901260400.40363.ananda.samaddar@vfemail.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > 'I'm sorry but libotr depends so heavily on gtk libs that I'm unable to > compile it on windows - we then must build nearly all base gtk libs just for > this plugin.' > > Is this really true? That libotr depends on gtk? It is not true: ~> rpm -q --requires libotr /sbin/ldconfig /sbin/ldconfig libc.so.6()(64bit) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)(64bit) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit) libgcrypt >= 1.2.0 libgcrypt.so.11()(64bit) libgcrypt.so.11(GCRYPT_1.2)(64bit) libgpg-error.so.0()(64bit) libotr.so.2()(64bit) pkgconfig rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) <= 3.0.3-1 rtld(GNU_HASH) Paul From ian at cypherpunks.ca Tue Jan 27 10:39:25 2009 From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:39:25 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Kopete and OTR In-Reply-To: <200901260400.40363.ananda.samaddar@vfemail.net> References: <200901260400.40363.ananda.samaddar@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <20090127153925.GE30894@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 04:00:40AM +0000, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > It's probably worth noting on the OTR website that the from KDE 4.1 onwards, > Kopete supports OTR 'out of the box'. The list of OTR enable software still > refers to a the plugin as 3rd party, but is merged in the main KDE > distribution. Thanks for the info! I've updated the web site. > Also I had this sent to me by a KDE dev when I reported a bug w.r.t lack of > OTR in Kopete for Windows: > > 'I'm sorry but libotr depends so heavily on gtk libs that I'm unable to > compile it on windows - we then must build nearly all base gtk libs just for > this plugin.' > > Is this really true? That libotr depends on gtk? As Paul pointed out, it is not true. libotr compiles for Windows just fine with no gtk involvement. - Ian From junk at chassit.com Thu Jan 29 13:33:10 2009 From: junk at chassit.com (Tree) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:33:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [OTR-users] otrproxy port-locked Message-ID: Hi. I'm trying to run otrproxy on a network that blocks port 5190. AIM actually works on just about any port, so I'm trying to get rid of the port-checking code in otrproxy. I have been trying to build otrproxy under cygwin, but I keep running into errors. :( Any suggestions? Thanks -Tree From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Jan 29 13:58:11 2009 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:58:11 +0000 Subject: [OTR-users] otrproxy port-locked In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4981FC43.2090600@fenrir.org.uk> Tree wrote: > Hi. I'm trying to run otrproxy on a network that blocks port 5190. AIM > actually works on just about any port, so I'm trying to get rid of the > port-checking code in otrproxy. > > I have been trying to build otrproxy under cygwin, but I keep running into > errors. :( > > Any suggestions? stunnel? -- Brian From junk at chassit.com Thu Jan 29 14:18:42 2009 From: junk at chassit.com (Tree) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:18:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [OTR-users] otrproxy port-locked In-Reply-To: <4981FC43.2090600@fenrir.org.uk> References: <4981FC43.2090600@fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Brian Morrison wrote: > Tree wrote: >> Hi. I'm trying to run otrproxy on a network that blocks port 5190. AIM >> actually works on just about any port, so I'm trying to get rid of the >> port-checking code in otrproxy. >> >> I have been trying to build otrproxy under cygwin, but I keep running into >> errors. :( >> >> Any suggestions? > > stunnel? I assume you mean in order to forward port 5190 to somewhere else? That *would* probably work, technically. I'm sure there are other options out there to forward the port... but that seems clunky. Two programs is enough. (I won't be the only one using this) What I'd really like is a working build environment for the otrproxy source. I think most of my errors are coming from the wxWidgets code... compiling that library is a *real* pain. I only managed to get 2.8.9 compiled. If someone has a working binary package, or set of configure commands that make *that* work, that might help. I can't get the package to build on debian etch, either... albeit with a completely different set of errors, but still related to wxWidgets. I've attached my compiler output, if anyone is interested. Thanks, -Tree -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: errors.txt URL: From ian at cypherpunks.ca Thu Jan 29 18:17:41 2009 From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:17:41 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] otrproxy port-locked In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090129231741.GO12474@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 01:33:10PM -0500, Tree wrote: > > Hi. I'm trying to run otrproxy on a network that blocks port 5190. AIM > actually works on just about any port, so I'm trying to get rid of the > port-checking code in otrproxy. > > I have been trying to build otrproxy under cygwin, but I keep running > into errors. :( > > Any suggestions? Thanks We built the windows version of otrproxy with the mingw compiler, not cygwin. And we actually did it on a Linux box, cross-compiling for Windows. And no one's looked at that code for years. So I'm afraid I'm at a loss to help, unfortunately. :-( [There's always the possibility of using a debugger/disassembler to find where in the binary the check for port 5190 is being done, and NOP it out. But that's me channelling my Apple ][ days. :-p ] - Ian From konrad at tylerc.org Thu Jan 29 18:29:06 2009 From: konrad at tylerc.org (Conrad Meyer) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:29:06 -0800 Subject: [OTR-users] otrproxy port-locked In-Reply-To: <20090129231741.GO12474@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20090129231741.GO12474@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: <200901291529.06281.konrad@tylerc.org> On Thursday 29 January 2009 03:17:41 pm Ian Goldberg wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 01:33:10PM -0500, Tree wrote: > > Hi. I'm trying to run otrproxy on a network that blocks port 5190. AIM > > actually works on just about any port, so I'm trying to get rid of the > > port-checking code in otrproxy. > > > > I have been trying to build otrproxy under cygwin, but I keep running > > into errors. :( > > > > Any suggestions? Thanks > > We built the windows version of otrproxy with the mingw compiler, not > cygwin. And we actually did it on a Linux box, cross-compiling for > Windows. And no one's looked at that code for years. So I'm afraid I'm > at a loss to help, unfortunately. :-( > > [There's always the possibility of using a debugger/disassembler to find > where in the binary the check for port 5190 is being done, and NOP it > out. But that's me channelling my Apple ][ days. :-p ] > > - Ian Or someone could change the source and rebuild it for windows. -- Conrad Meyer From junk at chassit.com Fri Jan 30 10:07:34 2009 From: junk at chassit.com (Tree) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:07:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [OTR-users] otrproxy port-locked In-Reply-To: <20090129231741.GO12474@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20090129231741.GO12474@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Ian Goldberg wrote: > We built the windows version of otrproxy with the mingw compiler, not > cygwin. And we actually did it on a Linux box, cross-compiling for > Windows. And no one's looked at that code for years. So I'm afraid I'm > at a loss to help, unfortunately. :-( This is exactly the information I was looking for! Thirty minutes on my debian box, and I have a working build! For anyone searching this in the future, I'm using: libgpg-error-1.7 libgcrypt-1.4.4 libotr-3.2.0 wxWidgets-2.5.5 (google for wxAll-2.5.5.tar.gz) otrproxy-0.3.1 Add the following to the configure lines for the third party libs: --host=i586-mingw32msvc --prefix=/usr/i586-mingw32msvc For wxWidgets, follow the instructions in docs/msw/install.txt, and add the above. Compile the otr software with the exact configure command lines from their respective INSTALL files. Now, a couple more questions (details details...) - the executable is 24 MB, rather than the 2 MB in the official build - it complains about missing dll files. Was the official build statically linked? How do I change those things? Thanks! -Tree From ian at cypherpunks.ca Fri Jan 30 10:15:20 2009 From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:15:20 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] otrproxy port-locked In-Reply-To: References: <20090129231741.GO12474@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: <20090130151520.GH10412@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:07:34AM -0500, Tree wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Ian Goldberg wrote: > >> We built the windows version of otrproxy with the mingw compiler, not >> cygwin. And we actually did it on a Linux box, cross-compiling for >> Windows. And no one's looked at that code for years. So I'm afraid I'm >> at a loss to help, unfortunately. :-( > > This is exactly the information I was looking for! > Thirty minutes on my debian box, and I have a working build! Good. :-) > > For anyone searching this in the future, I'm using: > libgpg-error-1.7 > libgcrypt-1.4.4 > libotr-3.2.0 > wxWidgets-2.5.5 (google for wxAll-2.5.5.tar.gz) > otrproxy-0.3.1 > > Add the following to the configure lines for the third party libs: > --host=i586-mingw32msvc --prefix=/usr/i586-mingw32msvc > > For wxWidgets, follow the instructions in docs/msw/install.txt, and add > the above. > > Compile the otr software with the exact configure command lines from > their respective INSTALL files. > > Now, a couple more questions (details details...) > - the executable is 24 MB, rather than the 2 MB in the official build > - it complains about missing dll files. Was the official build statically > linked? > > How do I change those things? The .nsi file in the otrproxy tree suggests that the only .dll you should need at runtime is mingwm10.dll. Is that the one yours is complaining about? I think that indeed, we probably linked the other ones statically, by building them as .a rather than as .dll files. But I don't actually remember too clearly, unfortunately. - Ian From junk at chassit.com Fri Jan 30 10:28:34 2009 From: junk at chassit.com (Tree) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:28:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [OTR-users] otrproxy port-locked In-Reply-To: <20090130151520.GH10412@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20090129231741.GO12474@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> <20090130151520.GH10412@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Ian Goldberg wrote: > The .nsi file in the otrproxy tree suggests that the only .dll you > should need at runtime is mingwm10.dll. Is that the one yours is > complaining about? I think that indeed, we probably linked the other > ones statically, by building them as .a rather than as .dll files. > But I don't actually remember too clearly, unfortunately. I'm testing by copying my newly compiled exe into an install directory created by the "official" build. "strip" worked fine on otrproxy.exe... cut it down to the expected 2 MB. Now, the libraries... my mingw lib directory (/usr/i586-mingw32msvc/lib/) has both dlls and static libs for the above libraries. My C++ skills are a bit rusty, but I think the linking program/build needs to decide how to link when it compiles... It complained about libgrypt-11.dll and libgpg-error-0.dll. I also get an assertion from (I think) wxWidgets on startup, but that can probably be solved by doing a "release" build of wxWidgets... Also, I don't appear to have a file called "mingwm10.dll" anywhere on my linux system. It could be that this file should provide the same symbols, but I haven't built it somehow. Thanks, -Tree