From sandwalker@gmail.com Sat Sep 1 11:12:39 2007 From: sandwalker@gmail.com (Chakat Sandwalker) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 22:12:39 +1200 Subject: [OTR-users] Pidgin can't find OTR plugin... In-Reply-To: <20070831222050.GP15409@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> References: <46D88718.8040301@gmail.com> <20070831222050.GP15409@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: <46D93B17.2010600@gmail.com> Well, pidgin -d tells me a lot of stuff, most of which I can't intepret. Exactly what is it that I'm looking for? Any particular line or strings? And I downloaded and compiled/installed the 3.1.0 versions of the libraries from the website. I also ran /sbin/ldconfig and added 'include /usr/local/lib' to /etc/ld.so.conf. I've always had trouble getting new libraries recognised. Sandy Ian Goldberg wrote: > On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 09:24:40AM +1200, Chakat Sandwalker wrote: > >> I run Ubuntu Feisty Fawn (7.04), with Pidgin 2.10, and I can/not/ figure >> out how to get the OTR plugin working. I even reinstalled Pidgin to its >> default location (/usr/local/bin I think), and the plugin to its default >> location. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong; I don't get any errors in >> compiling (well, I didn't after I moved Pidgin). Does the plugin have >> to be installed in a particular place for Pidgin to recognise it? If >> so, where? I gave up after nearly an hour of trying. -.- Hopefully >> someone here can make sense of this. I'm not a newbie to compiling from >> source, but when the instructions aren't very specific, it's frustrating. >> > > What does "pidign -d" tell you? The most common issues are: > > - You need to make sure you're using both pidgin-otr 3.1.0 and libotr > 3.1.0. > > - You installed libotr into /usr/local/lib, but that directory isn't > listed in your /etc/ld.so.conf. > From sandwalker@gmail.com Sat Sep 1 11:47:29 2007 From: sandwalker@gmail.com (Chakat Sandwalker) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 22:47:29 +1200 Subject: [OTR-users] Pidgin can't find OTR plugin... In-Reply-To: <46D93B17.2010600@gmail.com> References: <46D88718.8040301@gmail.com> <20070831222050.GP15409@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> <46D93B17.2010600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46D94341.3000405@gmail.com> Never mind -- I recompiled the libotr, ran /sbin/ldconfig, then recompiled pidgin-otr with the --with-libotr-prefix option, and...bingo. The plugin files finally showed up in /usr/local/lib/. Thanks for the suggestions, though. Sandy Chakat Sandwalker wrote: > Well, pidgin -d tells me a lot of stuff, most of which I can't > intepret. Exactly what is it that I'm looking for? Any particular > line or strings? > > And I downloaded and compiled/installed the 3.1.0 versions of the > libraries from the website. I also ran /sbin/ldconfig and added > 'include /usr/local/lib' to /etc/ld.so.conf. I've always had trouble > getting new libraries recognised. > > Sandy > > > Ian Goldberg wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 09:24:40AM +1200, Chakat Sandwalker wrote: >> >>> I run Ubuntu Feisty Fawn (7.04), with Pidgin 2.10, and I can/not/ >>> figure out how to get the OTR plugin working. I even reinstalled >>> Pidgin to its default location (/usr/local/bin I think), and the >>> plugin to its default location. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong; >>> I don't get any errors in compiling (well, I didn't after I moved >>> Pidgin). Does the plugin have to be installed in a particular place >>> for Pidgin to recognise it? If so, where? I gave up after nearly >>> an hour of trying. -.- Hopefully someone here can make sense of >>> this. I'm not a newbie to compiling from source, but when the >>> instructions aren't very specific, it's frustrating. >>> >> >> What does "pidign -d" tell you? The most common issues are: >> >> - You need to make sure you're using both pidgin-otr 3.1.0 and libotr >> 3.1.0. >> >> - You installed libotr into /usr/local/lib, but that directory isn't >> listed in your /etc/ld.so.conf. >> > _______________________________________________ > OTR-users mailing list > OTR-users@lists.cypherpunks.ca > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users > From joerg.hermsdorf@inf.tu-dresden.de Tue Sep 4 09:47:32 2007 From: joerg.hermsdorf@inf.tu-dresden.de (Joerg Hermsdorf) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:47:32 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] Kopete OTR Plugin Message-ID: <200709041047.32627.joerg.hermsdorf@inf.tu-dresden.de> Hi all, FYI, the OTR plugin for Kopete is now available for various openSUSE/SuSE versions via the openSUSE Build Service: http://repos.opensuse.org/KDE:/Community/ Regards, Jörg From pollockr@gmail.com Thu Sep 13 22:00:28 2007 From: pollockr@gmail.com (Ryan Pollock) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:00:28 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR Pidgin Button Too Intrusive Message-ID: <75b8f3eb0709131400i2ea76e36wc59ec3e35df91e4f@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_37012_20055814.1189717228763 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi All, I'm using Pidgin with the OTR plugin on windows. Is there any way to make the OTR button in the message window less intrusive? It is pretty big and it indents my message area which I don't like. I would even prefer it just to be on the other side. Even better would be a little icon in the top menu like Pidgin-Encryption does. I don't know if this is editable in a config file or involves changing the source. Thanks for your help. -Ryan ------=_Part_37012_20055814.1189717228763 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi All,

I'm using Pidgin with the OTR plugin on windows.  Is there any way to make the OTR button in the message window less intrusive?  It is pretty big and it indents my message area which I don't like.  I would even prefer it just to be on the other side. Even better would be a little icon in the top menu like Pidgin-Encryption does. I don't know if this is editable in a config file or involves changing the source.  Thanks for your help.

-Ryan
------=_Part_37012_20055814.1189717228763-- From 412@gmx.net Sat Sep 15 00:34:27 2007 From: 412@gmx.net (412MN) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:34:27 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] Pidgin OTR Button duplicates itself Message-ID: <46EB1A83.1050809@gmx.net> I have some users in my contact list that are registered with multiple accounts (ICQ/XMPP) therefore I bundle them in the list. In a conversation window with these folks I get a menu item in the upper part of the window that says "Send to" and I can choose the person's account I want to talk to. Whenever I switch the accounts though, a second OTR button appears. Here's what I do to reproduce this: Open a new conversation ICQ Account is default, one OTR-button visible that tries to establish a secure ICQ connection I click on "Send to" and choose the XMPP account from the list window is active in XMPP mode, two OTR-buttons visible, the first one on the left still connects to ICQ the second and new one to XMPP I'm not familiar with the code but I know a little about coding and my guess is there must be some routine in the plugin code that creates the button and fails to destroy the old one when a different account is chosen. Ideally the OTR-button linking to ICQ would be destroyed/replaced and an XMPP one created once the account is selected and vice versa. I use Pidgin 2.2.0, libotr 3.1.0 and pidgin-otr-3.1.0 (all compiled from source) on a Ubuntu Feisty (7.04) machine in XFCE 4.4.0 with xfwm4 Best Regards -Markus From smallguybrush@gmail.com Sat Sep 15 05:01:22 2007 From: smallguybrush@gmail.com (smallguybrush Yang) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:01:22 +0800 Subject: [OTR-users] Please remove me from OTR-users list Message-ID: <172c55470709142101r215b0751ob726378e4a03aa61@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_3547_15621656.1189828882098 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm not a OTR-user. I do not know why i keep receiving your mails. Please remove me from your list, thank you. ------=_Part_3547_15621656.1189828882098 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'm not a OTR-user.
I do not know why i keep receiving your mails.
Please remove me from your list, thank you.
 
 
------=_Part_3547_15621656.1189828882098-- From alex323@gmail.com Sat Sep 15 11:13:54 2007 From: alex323@gmail.com (Alex) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 06:13:54 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] Please remove me from OTR-users list In-Reply-To: <172c55470709142101r215b0751ob726378e4a03aa61@mail.gmail.com> References: <172c55470709142101r215b0751ob726378e4a03aa61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070915061354.30571191@darwin> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:01:22 +0800 "smallguybrush Yang" wrote: > I'm not a OTR-user. > I do not know why i keep receiving your mails. > Please remove me from your list, thank you. Send a blank email to otr-users-unsubscribe@lists.cypherpunks.ca -- Alex From joerg.hermsdorf@inf.tu-dresden.de Sat Sep 15 11:14:24 2007 From: joerg.hermsdorf@inf.tu-dresden.de (Joerg Hermsdorf) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:14:24 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR on mobile phones In-Reply-To: <46EB1A83.1050809@gmx.net> References: <46EB1A83.1050809@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200709151214.25011.joerg.hermsdorf@inf.tu-dresden.de> Is there already an IM client for mobile phones, that has OTR support? Maybe for Symbian or JavaME? Or are there at least plans to bring OTR to mobile phones? Or will the OpenMoko phone(s) be the only ones where OTR will be possible in the near future? Best Regards, Jörg From konrad@tylerc.org Sun Sep 16 10:08:42 2007 From: konrad@tylerc.org (Konrad Meyer) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:08:42 -0700 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR plugin for X-Chat Message-ID: <200709160208.43551.konrad@tylerc.org> --nextPart1713207.sT8DxAKPIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I know gaim has an IRC mode, but I'd like to use OTR in X-Chat. Before I go ahead and write it myself, though, I was wondering if there had been any efforts made in this direction by anyone else in the past. If not, do folks have any pointers for using libotr? (I am someone relatively unfamiliar with the internals of libotr.) Thanks, =2D-=20 Konrad Meyer http://konrad.sobertillnoon.com/ --nextPart1713207.sT8DxAKPIs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBG7PKbCHB0oCiR2cwRAoufAKCH7m6qoL74g+yyi5pX5+hbAk618gCgxtdA XOvHUbYJpubeDqMoA9x5QBs= =ouJj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1713207.sT8DxAKPIs-- From paul@cypherpunks.ca Sun Sep 16 14:53:35 2007 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [OTR-users] Pidgin OTR Button duplicates itself In-Reply-To: <46EB1A83.1050809@gmx.net> References: <46EB1A83.1050809@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, 412MN wrote: > I have some users in my contact list that are registered with multiple > accounts (ICQ/XMPP) therefore I bundle them in the list. In a > conversation window with these folks I get a menu item in the upper part > of the window that says "Send to" and I can choose the person's account > I want to talk to. Whenever I switch the accounts though, a second OTR > button appears. Here's what I do to reproduce this: It is a known issue with pidgin, and hard to solve, especially since pidgin seems to randomly switch between combined user accounts. > I'm not familiar with the code but I know a little about coding and my > guess is there must be some routine in the plugin code that creates the > button and fails to destroy the old one when a different account is > chosen. Ideally the OTR-button linking to ICQ would be > destroyed/replaced and an XMPP one created once the account is selected > and vice versa. It is more complex then that, since you are talking to one of the combined user encrypted, and non-encrypted with the other half. So we can't just close the "older' button. Paul -- Building and integrating Virtual Private Networks with Openswan: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1904811256/104-3099591-2946327?n=283155 From paul@cypherpunks.ca Sun Sep 16 14:55:00 2007 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [OTR-users] OTR on mobile phones In-Reply-To: <200709151214.25011.joerg.hermsdorf@inf.tu-dresden.de> References: <46EB1A83.1050809@gmx.net> <200709151214.25011.joerg.hermsdorf@inf.tu-dresden.de> Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Joerg Hermsdorf wrote: > Is there already an IM client for mobile phones, that has OTR support? Maybe > for Symbian or JavaME? Or are there at least plans to bring OTR to mobile > phones? Or will the OpenMoko phone(s) be the only ones where OTR will be > possible in the near future? I hope the openmoko will have it soon. I'm keeping an eye on it, but AFAIK there is not even an IM client for it yet. Paul, waiting on a v2 phone. -- Building and integrating Virtual Private Networks with Openswan: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1904811256/104-3099591-2946327?n=283155 From ian@cypherpunks.ca Sun Sep 16 17:25:36 2007 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:25:36 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR Pidgin Button Too Intrusive In-Reply-To: <75b8f3eb0709131400i2ea76e36wc59ec3e35df91e4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <75b8f3eb0709131400i2ea76e36wc59ec3e35df91e4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070916162536.GD9708@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 05:00:28PM -0400, Ryan Pollock wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm using Pidgin with the OTR plugin on windows. Is there any way to make > the OTR button in the message window less intrusive? It is pretty big and > it indents my message area which I don't like. I would even prefer it just > to be on the other side. Even better would be a little icon in the top menu > like Pidgin-Encryption does. I don't know if this is editable in a config > file or involves changing the source. Thanks for your help. The plan for the next version is to move it to a menu, indeed. But I don't think there's a way to change it without changing the source. - Ian From ian@cypherpunks.ca Sun Sep 16 17:29:41 2007 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:29:41 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] Pidgin OTR Button duplicates itself In-Reply-To: <46EB1A83.1050809@gmx.net> References: <46EB1A83.1050809@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20070916162941.GE9708@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 01:34:27AM +0200, 412MN wrote: > I have some users in my contact list that are registered with multiple > accounts (ICQ/XMPP) therefore I bundle them in the list. In a > conversation window with these folks I get a menu item in the upper part > of the window that says "Send to" and I can choose the person's account > I want to talk to. Whenever I switch the accounts though, a second OTR > button appears. Here's what I do to reproduce this: > > Open a new conversation > ICQ Account is default, one OTR-button visible that tries to establish a > secure ICQ connection > I click on "Send to" and choose the XMPP account from the list > window is active in XMPP mode, two OTR-buttons visible, the first one on > the left still connects to ICQ the second and new one to XMPP > > I'm not familiar with the code but I know a little about coding and my > guess is there must be some routine in the plugin code that creates the > button and fails to destroy the old one when a different account is > chosen. Ideally the OTR-button linking to ICQ would be > destroyed/replaced and an XMPP one created once the account is selected > and vice versa. It's not failing to destroy the old one. You really do need both of them there, unfortunately. gaim 2 (now aka pidgin) made the decision that a single conversation window can contain simulaneous conversations with different people (or different accounts of the same person). But what if one of those conversations is OTR-protected, and one isn't? When you receive a message, how will you know if it's authentic or not? The purpose of leaving both buttons there is just to warn you of this possibility. It's clear that this isn't the best UI choice, though. Suggestions on how to deal with this problem are more than welcome. - Ian From ian@cypherpunks.ca Sun Sep 16 17:30:52 2007 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:30:52 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR on mobile phones In-Reply-To: <200709151214.25011.joerg.hermsdorf@inf.tu-dresden.de> References: <46EB1A83.1050809@gmx.net> <200709151214.25011.joerg.hermsdorf@inf.tu-dresden.de> Message-ID: <20070916163052.GF9708@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 12:14:24PM +0200, Joerg Hermsdorf wrote: > Is there already an IM client for mobile phones, that has OTR support? Maybe > for Symbian or JavaME? Or are there at least plans to bring OTR to mobile > phones? Or will the OpenMoko phone(s) be the only ones where OTR will be > possible in the near future? I personally don't have the time to do it, but would love to see it done, and will gladly help. One problem with JavaME, for example, though, is that it's in Java, so someone would have to write libotr in Java. - Ian From ian@cypherpunks.ca Sun Sep 16 17:32:16 2007 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:32:16 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR plugin for X-Chat In-Reply-To: <200709160208.43551.konrad@tylerc.org> References: <200709160208.43551.konrad@tylerc.org> Message-ID: <20070916163216.GG9708@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 02:08:42AM -0700, Konrad Meyer wrote: > I know gaim has an IRC mode, but I'd like to use OTR in X-Chat. Before I go > ahead and write it myself, though, I was wondering if there had been any > efforts made in this direction by anyone else in the past. If not, do folks > have any pointers for using libotr? (I am someone relatively unfamiliar with > the internals of libotr.) I don't know of one. Let me know if you need some pointers in how to integrate libotr, though. - Ian From sven.lug-dorsten@gmx.de Mon Sep 17 09:19:15 2007 From: sven.lug-dorsten@gmx.de (Sven) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:19:15 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] Pidgin OTR Button duplicates itself In-Reply-To: <20070916162941.GE9708@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> References: <46EB1A83.1050809@gmx.net> <20070916162941.GE9708@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: <1190017155.11817.14.camel@bluebox> --=-ViqoLc53WXRJYG74kEJv Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Sonntag, den 16.09.2007, 12:29 -0400 schrieb Ian Goldberg: ... > When you receive a message, how will you know if it's authentic or not? > The purpose of leaving both buttons there is just to warn you of this > possibility. >=20 > It's clear that this isn't the best UI choice, though. Suggestions on > how to deal with this problem are more than welcome. The browser adress fields turns yellow, if you use ssl encryption. Perhaps changing the background of the send field to a light yellow, is a good indication for a encrypted connection. br, Sven --=-ViqoLc53WXRJYG74kEJv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBG7jiDCLWt5jCivKkRAtZQAJ4sNQZ5IgXhKPGPiz6V3GSc6HvX+ACfRKDA UuWx967d5C9mfjxPhKsZFJc= =XXnV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ViqoLc53WXRJYG74kEJv-- From 412@gmx.net Mon Sep 17 12:18:36 2007 From: 412@gmx.net (412MN) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:18:36 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] UI-choices for OTR button Message-ID: <46EE628C.7070309@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, maybe I can add some points to the discussion: > It is more complex then that, since you are talking to one of the > combined user encrypted, and non-encrypted with the other half. So > we can't just close the "older' button. It's not failing to destroy > the old one. You really do need both of them there, unfortunately. > gaim 2 (now aka pidgin) made the decision that a single > conversation window can contain simulaneous conversations with > different people (or different accounts of the same person). But > what if one of those conversations is OTR-protected, and one isn't? > When you receive a message, how will you know if it's authentic or > not? The purpose of leaving both buttons there is just to warn you > of this possibility. But as far as I can tell the conversation windown "contains" multiple accounts but you will only see one at a time. So the button would just have to switch between these displayed accounts. Imagine I have a user with 5 different accounts (ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, jabber, GaduGadu) then I will get a conversation window with 5 OTR buttons (all in different states possibly)? I think an indicator of some sort and a general activation dialogue will be enough to make the user aware (see below) ... I mean they're already using OTR messaging that's a lot more attention to IM than people usually grant. > It's clear that this isn't the best UI choice, though. Suggestions > on how to deal with this problem are more than welcome. The pidgin encryption plugin (f.k.a. gaim-encryption) (http://pidgin-encrypt.sourceforge.net/) uses a small "lock" icon on top of the message window to indicate if encryption (in the current conversation) is activated (http://bayimg.com/BahhjAABa) or not (http://bayimg.com/BAhhkaAbA) and the symbol at the same time is the activation dialogue (click -> Enable Encryption / Disable Encryption). They managed to have it distinguish between active accounts so I can activate encryption for every account selectively. Maybe you might want to take a look into their code and borrow some ideas for the distinction. That's what open source is for, right? =) I would hope for a button similar to the lock (someone interested in creating the first international OTR symbol? :p) that will light up when OTR is activated and greyed out when disabled. It's certainly enough of a reminder to look if the little icon on top is lit up and definitely a better choice than huge buttons in the already small window. For additional indication you might be able to add a message to the upper part of the conv-window where the username is displayed ('OFF THE RECORD CONVERSATION') or so. Let me hear what you think. Regards - --Markus P.S.: And by the way I really appreciate the effort you guys put into giving us a means of secure communication. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG7mKMYGqcWm++d8cRAqfdAJ9fa+iBnga58FS+EKJ5Js+LYaxKQwCeOeHk 6sCE/Z7uYupJ5kulJj8m10s= =Wx6G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From smallguybrush@gmail.com Mon Sep 17 14:21:59 2007 From: smallguybrush@gmail.com (smallguybrush Yang) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:21:59 +0800 Subject: [OTR-users] (no subject) Message-ID: <172c55470709170621u600dea93hce048931c416a9e8@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_9153_31461377.1190035319500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------=_Part_9153_31461377.1190035319500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------=_Part_9153_31461377.1190035319500-- From paul@cypherpunks.ca Mon Sep 17 19:49:38 2007 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [OTR-users] Pidgin OTR Button duplicates itself In-Reply-To: <1190017155.11817.14.camel@bluebox> References: <46EB1A83.1050809@gmx.net> <20070916162941.GE9708@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> <1190017155.11817.14.camel@bluebox> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Sven wrote: > The browser adress fields turns yellow, if you use ssl encryption. > Perhaps changing the background of the send field to a light yellow, is > a good indication for a encrypted connection. It is not. Because in a combined user window, you do not KNOW which account will be used. Image you both have a AIM/MSN combi account, and OTR on the AIM connectection. just as you're typing and hitting return, the AIM connection fails, and the message goes out over MSN instead, in plain text. The user expects a guarantee. It is already bad enough now as it is, since i have no idea which account is used for my typing, but at least I can ensure that both accounts started an OTR session. Paul From paul@cypherpunks.ca Mon Sep 17 19:52:00 2007 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [OTR-users] UI-choices for OTR button In-Reply-To: <46EE628C.7070309@gmx.net> References: <46EE628C.7070309@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, 412MN wrote: > But as far as I can tell the conversation windown "contains" multiple > accounts but you will only see one at a time. So the button would just > have to switch between these displayed accounts. Imagine I have a user > with 5 different accounts (ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, jabber, GaduGadu) then I > will get a conversation window with 5 OTR buttons (all in different No, you only get this situation when you COMBINE your friends accounts into one, and two of them talk to your 5+ accounts. > > on how to deal with this problem are more than welcome. > The pidgin encryption plugin (f.k.a. gaim-encryption) > (http://pidgin-encrypt.sourceforge.net/) uses a small "lock" icon on > top of the message window to indicate if encryption (in the current Look in the archive of what the padlock symbol is unusuable for OTR. It has been explained dozens of times. Paul From 412@gmx.net Mon Sep 17 20:35:58 2007 From: 412@gmx.net (412MN) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:35:58 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] UI-choices for OTR button In-Reply-To: References: <46EE628C.7070309@gmx.net> Message-ID: <46EED71E.7040901@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, what I tried to say about the multiple button issue was it can obviously be done. > > Look in the archive of what the padlock symbol is unusuable for > OTR. It has been explained dozens of times. I think you got me wrong, I'm not suggesting to use the padlock icon but to create a similar icon that will be used to indicate if OTR is activated. If you'd tell me what resources (resolution, format etc.) I can use to provide a button I would create one for a start. I'm thinking of a typewriter key that lights up in green when activated and has red line crossing it when disabled or the other way around (because a record is usually written by a typist). Please let me know if that's of any help. Regards - -Markus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG7tceYGqcWm++d8cRAuiAAJ4h3cXrVLbqgmtWLYRrTKBu+rNdWACeN8bY X+R4HbNb5GGzYsbWh2Q7WlY= =/aFm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From paul@cypherpunks.ca Tue Sep 18 02:28:07 2007 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [OTR-users] UI-choices for OTR button In-Reply-To: <46EED71E.7040901@gmx.net> References: <46EE628C.7070309@gmx.net> <46EED71E.7040901@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, 412MN wrote: > what I tried to say about the multiple button issue was it can > obviously be done. Then please tell me how you handle the case of multiple identities talking in one screen while one of the IM servers goes down, without leaking plaintext > > Look in the archive of what the padlock symbol is unusuable for > > OTR. It has been explained dozens of times. > > I think you got me wrong, I'm not suggesting to use the padlock icon > but to create a similar icon that will be used to indicate if OTR is > activated. If you'd tell me what resources (resolution, format etc.) I > can use to provide a button I would create one for a start. I'm > thinking of a typewriter key that lights up in green when activated > and has red line crossing it when disabled or the other way around > (because a record is usually written by a typist). You are still thinking of "activated" and "disabled", but we have more then two states - Inactive, Unverified and Private. I am not sure how changing icons is addressing the issue of of gaim's "grouping bug" where it flips between accounts at random. Paul -- Building and integrating Virtual Private Networks with Openswan: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1904811256/104-3099591-2946327?n=283155 From 412@gmx.net Tue Sep 18 11:17:47 2007 From: 412@gmx.net (412MN) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:17:47 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] UI-choices for OTR button In-Reply-To: References: <46EE628C.7070309@gmx.net> <46EED71E.7040901@gmx.net> Message-ID: <46EFA5CB.3000906@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Then please tell me how you handle the case of multiple identities > talking in one screen while one of the IM servers goes down, without > leaking plaintext My spontaneous answer would be discard the plaintext from the cancelled session. The problem as you mentioned is Pidgin flipping randomly between the accounts (a behavior I can't reproduce) and the method of how the plugin handles identification of the account in use. I'm currently looking into the code of the OTR plugin and how you handle sessions and how it's done in pidgin encryption. My C is a little rusted and so it will take some time to give you an answer. Especially because I'll have to read up on GTK and such. Unfortunately this is new terrain for me so I can only try to get as close to a solution as I can. > You are still thinking of "activated" and "disabled", but we have more > then two states - Inactive, Unverified and Private. Again I have to think about pidgin-encrypt who use 6 different icons to indicate the different states. I just used activated and disabled as examples to save some time typing. Of course an icon would have to show all available states of a conversation. All my contacts that use OTR are down at the moment so it's hard for me to experiment with the plugin but I'll stick to it. Maybe that's all out of my ballpark but I'll definitely try. I never meant to make you upset I was just asking myself how you could improve an already decent piece of software. Regards Markus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG76XLYGqcWm++d8cRApDiAJ43Cqx7NVOX+QQcQyw8W5Rrn6lKlwCgsFco xdbXmx+uU+G35Ln9Iedut/g= =65Kh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pollockr@gmail.com Tue Sep 18 14:29:21 2007 From: pollockr@gmail.com (Ryan Pollock) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:29:21 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR Pidgin Button Too Intrusive In-Reply-To: <20070916162536.GD9708@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> References: <75b8f3eb0709131400i2ea76e36wc59ec3e35df91e4f@mail.gmail.com> <20070916162536.GD9708@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: <75b8f3eb0709180629x64361157o9c2038faca16177d@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_15604_30938491.1190122161355 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks! Thats good to hear. -Ryan On 9/16/07, Ian Goldberg wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 05:00:28PM -0400, Ryan Pollock wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I'm using Pidgin with the OTR plugin on windows. Is there any way to > make > > the OTR button in the message window less intrusive? It is pretty big > and > > it indents my message area which I don't like. I would even prefer it > just > > to be on the other side. Even better would be a little icon in the top > menu > > like Pidgin-Encryption does. I don't know if this is editable in a > config > > file or involves changing the source. Thanks for your help. > > The plan for the next version is to move it to a menu, indeed. But I > don't think there's a way to change it without changing the source. > > - Ian > _______________________________________________ > OTR-users mailing list > OTR-users@lists.cypherpunks.ca > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users > ------=_Part_15604_30938491.1190122161355 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks! Thats good to hear.
-Ryan

On 9/16/07, Ian Goldberg <ian@cypherpunks.ca> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 05:00:28PM -0400, Ryan Pollock wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm using Pidgin with the OTR plugin on windows.  Is there any way to make
> the OTR button in the message window less intrusive?  It is pretty big and
> it indents my message area which I don't like.  I would even prefer it just
> to be on the other side. Even better would be a little icon in the top menu
> like Pidgin-Encryption does. I don't know if this is editable in a config
> file or involves changing the source.  Thanks for your help.

The plan for the next version is to move it to a menu, indeed.  But I
don't think there's a way to change it without changing the source.

   - Ian
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------=_Part_15604_30938491.1190122161355-- From konrad@tylerc.org Wed Sep 19 21:53:47 2007 From: konrad@tylerc.org (konrad@tylerc.org) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [OTR-users] OTR plugin for X-Chat Message-ID: <4014.140.107.151.115.1190235227.squirrel@milk.tylerc.org> On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:32:16 -0400, Ian Goldberg wrote: >On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 02:08:42AM -0700, Konrad Meyer wrote: >> I know gaim has an IRC mode, but I'd like to use OTR in X-Chat. Before I go >> ahead and write it myself, though, I was wondering if there had been any >> efforts made in this direction by anyone else in the past. If not, do folks >> have any pointers for using libotr? (I am someone relatively unfamiliar >> with the internals of libotr.) > >I don't know of one. Let me know if you need some pointers in how to >integrate libotr, though. > > - Ian Hey, I have a question now :D. Why would anyone want to use a fragment policy other than OTRL_FRAGMENT_SEND_ALL? -- Konrad Meyer http://konrad.sobertillnoon.com/ From ian@cypherpunks.ca Wed Sep 19 22:55:25 2007 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:55:25 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR plugin for X-Chat In-Reply-To: <4014.140.107.151.115.1190235227.squirrel@milk.tylerc.org> References: <4014.140.107.151.115.1190235227.squirrel@milk.tylerc.org> Message-ID: <20070919215525.GF9708@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 04:53:47PM -0400, konrad@tylerc.org wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:32:16 -0400, Ian Goldberg wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 02:08:42AM -0700, Konrad Meyer wrote: > >> I know gaim has an IRC mode, but I'd like to use OTR in X-Chat. Before > I go > >> ahead and write it myself, though, I was wondering if there had been any > >> efforts made in this direction by anyone else in the past. If not, do > folks > >> have any pointers for using libotr? (I am someone relatively unfamiliar > >> with the internals of libotr.) > > > >I don't know of one. Let me know if you need some pointers in how to > >integrate libotr, though. > > > > - Ian > > Hey, I have a question now :D. Why would anyone want to use a fragment > policy other than OTRL_FRAGMENT_SEND_ALL? pidgin uses a different policy, for example. Here's what's going on: When there's a message to be sent, the sending-im-msg callback of each plugin is called. Those plugins have the opportunity to modify the message that's about to be sent, by changing a pointer value passed into it. Normally, pidgin-otr changes the message to an encrypted version of the message, for example. But there's no way for a plugin to indicate "change the message about to be sent into these (for example) 3 messages". So pidgin-otr uses the fragment policy of OTRL_FRAGMENT_SEND_ALL_BUT_LAST to tell libotr that it's going to send all but the last fragment right now, but let the last fragment stick around, getting pointed to by that newly mofidied pointer, so that pidgin will send it on its own. You might say, "Why not just send all the fragments, and set the message-about-to-be-sent pointer to NULL"? The problem is that if you do that, pidgin decides it doesn't need to *show you the message you just typed*. Luckily, if it's anything non-NULL, pidgin shows you *what you originally typed*, and not whatever it was modified to before being sent over the wire (the encrypted version). Does that make sense? Thanks, - Ian From konrad@tylerc.org Wed Sep 19 23:19:09 2007 From: konrad@tylerc.org (konrad@tylerc.org) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [OTR-users] OTR plugin for X-Chat Message-ID: <2516.140.107.151.115.1190240349.squirrel@milk.tylerc.org> On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 17:55:25 -0400, Ian Goldberg wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 04:53:47PM -0400, konrad@tylerc.org wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:32:16 -0400, Ian Goldberg wrote: > > >On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 02:08:42AM -0700, Konrad Meyer wrote: > > >> I know gaim has an IRC mode, but I'd like to use OTR in X-Chat. Before > > I go > > >> ahead and write it myself, though, I was wondering if there had been any > > >> efforts made in this direction by anyone else in the past. If not, do > > folks > > >> have any pointers for using libotr? (I am someone relatively unfamiliar > > >> with the internals of libotr.) > > > > > >I don't know of one. Let me know if you need some pointers in how to > > >integrate libotr, though. > > > > > > - Ian > > > > Hey, I have a question now :D. Why would anyone want to use a fragment > > policy other than OTRL_FRAGMENT_SEND_ALL? > > pidgin uses a different policy, for example. Here's what's going on: > > When there's a message to be sent, the sending-im-msg callback of each > plugin is called. Those plugins have the opportunity to modify the > message that's about to be sent, by changing a pointer value passed into > it. Normally, pidgin-otr changes the message to an encrypted version of > the message, for example. > > But there's no way for a plugin to indicate "change the message about to > be sent into these (for example) 3 messages". So pidgin-otr uses the > fragment policy of OTRL_FRAGMENT_SEND_ALL_BUT_LAST to tell libotr that > it's going to send all but the last fragment right now, but let the last > fragment stick around, getting pointed to by that newly mofidied > pointer, so that pidgin will send it on its own. > > You might say, "Why not just send all the fragments, and set the > message-about-to-be-sent pointer to NULL"? The problem is that if you > do that, pidgin decides it doesn't need to *show you the message you > just typed*. Luckily, if it's anything non-NULL, pidgin shows you *what > you originally typed*, and not whatever it was modified to before being > sent over the wire (the encrypted version). > > Does that make sense? > > Thanks, > > - Ian OK, for my purposes (since I'm manually telling XChat to display the message the user sent) I will just use OTRL_FRAGMENT_SEND_ALL. I do wonder why you might not just send all the fragments, and set the message-about- to-be-sent pointer to (void *)1. I mean, it's a bit of a hack, but makes it a bit more simple IMO. Yeah, that made a lot of sense, thanks a bunch for the help. -- Konrad Meyer http://konrad.sobertillnoon.com/ From konrad@tylerc.org Thu Sep 20 01:49:47 2007 From: konrad@tylerc.org (Konrad Meyer) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:49:47 -0700 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR plugin for X-Chat In-Reply-To: <2516.140.107.151.115.1190240349.squirrel@milk.tylerc.org> References: <2516.140.107.151.115.1190240349.squirrel@milk.tylerc.org> Message-ID: <200709191749.48047.konrad@tylerc.org> --nextPart1278583.5RsIrE6kFY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Quoth konrad@tylerc.org: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 17:55:25 -0400, Ian Goldberg wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 04:53:47PM -0400, konrad@tylerc.org wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:32:16 -0400, Ian Goldberg wrote: > > > >On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 02:08:42AM -0700, Konrad Meyer wrote: > > > >> I know gaim has an IRC mode, but I'd like to use OTR in X-Chat.=20 Before > > > I go > > > >> ahead and write it myself, though, I was wondering if there had > been any > > > >> efforts made in this direction by anyone else in the past. If not,= do > > > folks > > > >> have any pointers for using libotr? (I am someone relatively > unfamiliar > > > >> with the internals of libotr.) > > > > > > > >I don't know of one. Let me know if you need some pointers in how to > > > >integrate libotr, though. > > > > > > > > - Ian > > > > > > Hey, I have a question now :D. Why would anyone want to use a fragment > > > policy other than OTRL_FRAGMENT_SEND_ALL? > > > > pidgin uses a different policy, for example. Here's what's going on: > > > > When there's a message to be sent, the sending-im-msg callback of each > > plugin is called. Those plugins have the opportunity to modify the > > message that's about to be sent, by changing a pointer value passed into > > it. Normally, pidgin-otr changes the message to an encrypted version of > > the message, for example. > > > > But there's no way for a plugin to indicate "change the message about to > > be sent into these (for example) 3 messages". So pidgin-otr uses the > > fragment policy of OTRL_FRAGMENT_SEND_ALL_BUT_LAST to tell libotr that > > it's going to send all but the last fragment right now, but let the last > > fragment stick around, getting pointed to by that newly mofidied > > pointer, so that pidgin will send it on its own. > > > > You might say, "Why not just send all the fragments, and set the > > message-about-to-be-sent pointer to NULL"? The problem is that if you > > do that, pidgin decides it doesn't need to *show you the message you > > just typed*. Luckily, if it's anything non-NULL, pidgin shows you *what > > you originally typed*, and not whatever it was modified to before being > > sent over the wire (the encrypted version). > > > > Does that make sense? > > > > Thanks, > > > > - Ian >=20 > OK, for my purposes (since I'm manually telling XChat to display the > message the user sent) I will just use OTRL_FRAGMENT_SEND_ALL. I do wonder > why you might not just send all the fragments, and set the message-about- > to-be-sent pointer to (void *)1. I mean, it's a bit of a hack, but makes > it a bit more simple IMO. >=20 > Yeah, that made a lot of sense, thanks a bunch for the help. >=20 > -- > Konrad Meyer http://konrad.sobertillnoon.com/ Doh. I sort of hit myself in the head about 5 seconds after sending that. Please disregard the stupid comments. =2D-=20 Konrad Meyer http://konrad.sobertillnoon.com/ --nextPart1278583.5RsIrE6kFY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBG8cOsCHB0oCiR2cwRAoQHAKCkP9nKJtIxNIp+DwP9NTUm9TUazACfaIhi rG9dd+h1ymfLT9wnEkGEewA= =u6Fv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1278583.5RsIrE6kFY-- From crsfug@yahoo.com Fri Sep 21 07:34:29 2007 From: crsfug@yahoo.com (forrest cox) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OTR-users] i need help with OTR Message-ID: <930646.52105.qm@web63302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> --0-794507978-1190356469=:52105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i am in hell. i cant figure out how to send a message, or add a buddy or anythin g. i try to send a message but nothing happens. icq 363-994-285, please, i know im an idiot, but i cant talk to my associates without pidgin + OTR --------------------------------- Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. --0-794507978-1190356469=:52105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i am in hell. i cant figure out how to send a message, or add a buddy or anythin g. i try to send a message but nothing happens. icq 363-994-285, please, i know im an idiot, but i cant talk to my associates without pidgin + OTR

Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. --0-794507978-1190356469=:52105-- From ian@cypherpunks.ca Sat Sep 22 03:28:09 2007 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:28:09 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] i need help with OTR In-Reply-To: <930646.52105.qm@web63302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <930646.52105.qm@web63302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070922022809.GP25382@yoink.cs.uwaterloo.ca> On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 11:34:29PM -0700, forrest cox wrote: > i am in hell. i cant figure out how to send a message, or add a buddy > or anythin g. i try to send a message but nothing happens. icq > 363-994-285, please, i know im an idiot, but i cant talk to my > associates without pidgin + OTR I'm not sure I understand. Are you having trouble with OTR, or with pidgin in general? Can you add buddies and send messages without OTR? - Ian From bdm@fenrir.org.uk Sat Sep 22 11:34:45 2007 From: bdm@fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:34:45 +0100 Subject: [OTR-users] i need help with OTR In-Reply-To: <930646.52105.qm@web63302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <930646.52105.qm@web63302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070922113445.0bcc85a0@peterson.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:34:29 -0700 (PDT) forrest cox wrote: > i am in hell. i cant figure out how to send a message, or add a buddy or anythin g. i try to send a message but nothing happens. icq 363-994-285, please, i know im an idiot, but i cant talk to my associates without pidgin + OTR Two questions: 1) Have you generated an OTR key for your IM account(s)? 2) Do you correspondents have OTR-capable IM clients installed? Both of these things need to be there or at best they'll be receiving ciphertext and at worst nothing. -- Brian Morrison bdm at fenrir dot org dot uk "Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in the mud; after a while you realize you are muddy and the pig is enjoying it." GnuPG key ID DE32E5C5 - http://wwwkeys.uk.pgp.net/pgpnet/wwwkeys.html From jkotuc@gmail.com Sat Sep 29 08:21:32 2007 From: jkotuc@gmail.com (Jan Kotuc) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:21:32 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR plugin for Pidgin Portable In-Reply-To: <930646.52105.qm@web63302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <930646.52105.qm@web63302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46FDFCFC.9050000@gmail.com> Hello people, i installed Pidgin Portable onto my usb stick the other day. The instructions on its webpage say the ordinary pidgin-otr installer should work with Pidgin Portable as well. Actually, it doesn't. It stops with the message "Pidgin installation not found". WTH can't it at least ask where Pidgin is installed (if it can't be found in C:\Program Files\)?? What should i do to enable OTR for my Pidgin Portable? Any help would be appreciated. Jan From paul@cypherpunks.ca Sat Sep 29 17:48:38 2007 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [OTR-users] OTR plugin for Pidgin Portable In-Reply-To: <46FDFCFC.9050000@gmail.com> References: <930646.52105.qm@web63302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <46FDFCFC.9050000@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 29 Sep 2007, Jan Kotuc wrote: > i installed Pidgin Portable onto my usb stick the other day. The > instructions on its webpage say the ordinary pidgin-otr installer should > work with Pidgin Portable as well. Actually, it doesn't. It stops with > the message "Pidgin installation not found". WTH can't it at least ask > where Pidgin is installed (if it can't be found in C:\Program Files\)?? > What should i do to enable OTR for my Pidgin Portable? Any help would be > appreciated. Install the NSIS installer, and open the .nsis file included with pidgin-otr. You can see the lines where it tries to find pidgin, and right after that you should be able to add a line or two to point to a directory. I'll see about adding the feature myself, but if anyone with easy access to Windows can make this change, please go ahead. For you, as a work around, you can just copy the pidgin-otr.dll in the pidgin modules directory. Paul From jkotuc@gmail.com Sun Sep 30 11:21:16 2007 From: jkotuc@gmail.com (Jan Kotuc) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:21:16 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR plugin for Pidgin Portable In-Reply-To: References: <930646.52105.qm@web63302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <46FDFCFC.9050000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46FF789C.2030007@gmail.com> Paul Wouters wrote: > Install the NSIS installer, and open the .nsis file included with pidgin-otr. > You can see the lines where it tries to find pidgin, and right after that > you should be able to add a line or two to point to a directory. > > I'll see about adding the feature myself, but if anyone with easy access to > Windows can make this change, please go ahead. > > For you, as a work around, you can just copy the pidgin-otr.dll in the > pidgin modules directory. > > Paul > Thanks, the workaround would be sufficient for me, but i'd like to know the easiest way how to rip that pidgin-otr installer open. Do i have to install the NSIS environment? Jan