From aldert at rotz.org  Sun Jul  9 15:29:47 2006
From: aldert at rotz.org (Aldert J.B.P. Hazenberg)
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:29:47 +0200
Subject: [OTR-users] http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ down
Message-ID: <44B1592B.8010301@rotz.org>

http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ is down.
Is there an official mirror ?

Aldert.


From paul at xelerance.com  Thu Jul 13 22:48:53 2006
From: paul at xelerance.com (Paul Wouters)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 04:48:53 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [OTR-users] http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ down
In-Reply-To: <44B1592B.8010301@rotz.org>
References: <44B1592B.8010301@rotz.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0607140444070.15508@tla.xelerance.com>

On Sun, 9 Jul 2006, Aldert J.B.P. Hazenberg wrote:

> http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ is down.
> Is there an official mirror ?

ftp://ftp.xelerance.com/mirror/otr/

Paul


From shavedporcupine at cyber-solutions.us  Thu Jul 13 22:41:14 2006
From: shavedporcupine at cyber-solutions.us (Andrew Del Vecchio)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:41:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [OTR-users] Re: OTR-users digest, Vol 1 #213 - 1 msg
In-Reply-To: <20060713102921.18101.71938.Mailman@brandeis.paip.net>
References: <20060713102921.18101.71938.Mailman@brandeis.paip.net>
Message-ID: <48979.127.0.0.1.1152844874.squirrel@libertarianactivism.com>

Good question. I've just written a very nice privacy guide for political
activists, and this down link doesn't help... Also this is the 1st traffic
on this list in a LONG time! I hope this project isn't dead :'(

~Andrew

On Thu, July 13, 2006 3:29 am, otr-users-request at lists.cypherpunks.ca wrote:
> Send OTR-users mailing list submissions to
> 	otr-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca
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>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
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> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
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>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ down (Aldert J.B.P. Hazenberg)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:29:47 +0200
> From: "Aldert J.B.P. Hazenberg" <aldert at rotz.org>
> To: otr-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca, otr-dev at lists.cypherpunks.ca
> Subject: [OTR-users] http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ down
>
>
> http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ is down.
> Is there an official mirror ?
>
> Aldert.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> _______________________________________________
> OTR-users mailing list
> OTR-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca
> http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users
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>
> End of OTR-users Digest
>


-- 
Andrew Del Vecchio

Take a FREE asset protection crash course at...
http://mpassetprotection.com/. Privacy is your right!


From kat at paip.net  Fri Jul 14 00:00:47 2006
From: kat at paip.net (Kat Hanna)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:00:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [OTR-users] Re: OTR-users digest, Vol 1 #213 - 1 msg
In-Reply-To: <48979.127.0.0.1.1152844874.squirrel@libertarianactivism.com>
References: <20060713102921.18101.71938.Mailman@brandeis.paip.net>
 <48979.127.0.0.1.1152844874.squirrel@libertarianactivism.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0607132356120.1631@marshall.paip.net>

No need to panic, we just moved house and our DSL wasn't set up as
promised.

The official mirror (as noted on the sourceforge project page
[http://otr.sourceforge.net/]) is
http://www.xelerance.com/mirror/otr/ .  As far as I know, that's been up
without interruption.

Cheers.

 -Kat

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Andrew Del Vecchio wrote:

> Good question. I've just written a very nice privacy guide for political
> activists, and this down link doesn't help... Also this is the 1st traffic
> on this list in a LONG time! I hope this project isn't dead :'(
>
> ~Andrew
>
> On Thu, July 13, 2006 3:29 am, otr-users-request at lists.cypherpunks.ca wrote:
> > Send OTR-users mailing list submissions to
> > 	otr-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca
> >
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > 	http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > 	otr-users-request at lists.cypherpunks.ca
> >
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > 	otr-users-admin at lists.cypherpunks.ca
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of OTR-users digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ down (Aldert J.B.P. Hazenberg)
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:29:47 +0200
> > From: "Aldert J.B.P. Hazenberg" <aldert at rotz.org>
> > To: otr-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca, otr-dev at lists.cypherpunks.ca
> > Subject: [OTR-users] http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ down
> >
> >
> > http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ is down.
> > Is there an official mirror ?
> >
> > Aldert.
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OTR-users mailing list
> > OTR-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca
> > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users
> >
> >
> > End of OTR-users Digest
> >
>
>
> --
> Andrew Del Vecchio
>
> Take a FREE asset protection crash course at...
> http://mpassetprotection.com/. Privacy is your right!
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From mseslacker at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 14 03:44:39 2006
From: mseslacker at yahoo.com (MSE)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:44:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [OTR-users] Button placement in Gaim2.0.0beta3 for Windows.
Message-ID: <20060714074439.65150.qmail@web33009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I just installed the Gaim2.0.0Beta3 and OTR3.0.0 (with modified DLL as per the "message" on the website).
  
  The OTR button appears left of the input buffer and very large.
  I'd rather see it inserted unobtrusively into the button bar with the formatting buttons.
  As it is, it's taking up a lot of window real estate for no good reason.
  
  -MSE
  
 		
---------------------------------
Do you Yahoo!?
 Everyone is raving about the  all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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From rguerra at lists.privaterra.org  Fri Jul 14 07:51:50 2006
From: rguerra at lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 07:51:50 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] Re: OTR-users digest, Vol 1 #213 - 1 msg
In-Reply-To: <48979.127.0.0.1.1152844874.squirrel@libertarianactivism.com>
References: <20060713102921.18101.71938.Mailman@brandeis.paip.net> <48979.127.0.0.1.1152844874.squirrel@libertarianactivism.com>
Message-ID: <744FEE0D-A64A-4B79-B823-6BFB7D99113F@lists.privaterra.org>

Andrew:


I'd be interested in knowing more about your document, as I'm working  
on  a similar project for Human Rights organizations. If we could  
collaborate somehow, that would be great!

Let me share some info...

1. Here's some links of the very initial/beta site I have up - one  
that I hope to develop into a collaborative site for those working on  
tools and documentation for social justice organizations..

It's based on trac. If the site gives you an error when you connect,  
just reload the page (perhaps more than once) and you should get in.

https://secure.privaterra.org/tools

List of recently added tools/applications:
https://secure.privaterra.org/tools/wiki/SecBox/listoftools

Tools that form part of the "Secure NGO in a Box", v2.0
https://secure.privaterra.org/tools/wiki/TextBox

A documentation section - one with step by step screenshots on how to  
use key tools, should be up in the next few days...

2. A related project that was completed last is worth taking a look  
at ...

http://security.ngoinabox.org


Anyway, again, hope we might be able to collaborate ...

regards

Robert


On 13-Jul-06, at 10:41 PM, Andrew Del Vecchio wrote:

> Good question. I've just written a very nice privacy guide for  
> political
> activists, and this down link doesn't help... Also this is the 1st  
> traffic
> on this list in a LONG time! I hope this project isn't dead :'(
>
> ~Andrew
>
> On Thu, July 13, 2006 3:29 am, otr-users- 
> request at lists.cypherpunks.ca wrote:
>> Send OTR-users mailing list submissions to
>> 	otr-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> 	http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> 	otr-users-request at lists.cypherpunks.ca
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> 	otr-users-admin at lists.cypherpunks.ca
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of OTR-users digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>    1. http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ down (Aldert J.B.P. Hazenberg)
>>
>> --__--__--
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:29:47 +0200
>> From: "Aldert J.B.P. Hazenberg" <aldert at rotz.org>
>> To: otr-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca, otr-dev at lists.cypherpunks.ca
>> Subject: [OTR-users] http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ down
>>
>>
>> http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ is down.
>> Is there an official mirror ?
>>
>> Aldert.
>>
>>
>> --__--__--
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OTR-users mailing list
>> OTR-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca
>> http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users
>>
>>
>> End of OTR-users Digest
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Andrew Del Vecchio
>
> Take a FREE asset protection crash course at...
> http://mpassetprotection.com/. Privacy is your right!
> _______________________________________________
> OTR-users mailing list
> OTR-users at lists.cypherpunks.ca
> http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users



From thebrokenladder at gmail.com  Fri Jul 14 12:46:41 2006
From: thebrokenladder at gmail.com (CLAY S)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:46:41 -0700
Subject: [OTR-users] Button placement in Gaim2.0.0beta3 for Windows.
In-Reply-To: <20060714074439.65150.qmail@web33009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060714074439.65150.qmail@web33009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <eef643190607140946i70de282ub8d18563e2d6a939@mail.gmail.com>

I could not agree with you more sir.

On 7/14/06, MSE <mseslacker at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I just installed the Gaim2.0.0Beta3 and OTR3.0.0 (with modified DLL as per
> the "message" on the website).
>
> The OTR button appears left of the input buffer and very large.
> I'd rather see it inserted unobtrusively into the button bar with the
> formatting buttons.
> As it is, it's taking up a lot of window real estate for no good reason.
>
> -MSE
>
> ------------------------------
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42297/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/handraisers>
>
>


-- 
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From gwSPAM at tnode.com  Fri Jul 14 15:00:06 2006
From: gwSPAM at tnode.com (GW)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:00:06 +0200
Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim 2.0.0beta3 - the special gaim OTR plugin crash
Message-ID: <44B7E9B6.7030701@tnode.com>

Hello.

I would like to report that at least on my Windows XP SP2 box in a
custom patched build of gaim2.0.0cvs gaim OTR works, but its GUI
representation (the buttons) don't look nice. Once I also managed to get
it to insert multiple same buttons in one window.

The main reason why am I writting this email is the following bug: If I
talk with someone under gaim OTR and after the conversation I want to
close it's conversation window (the tab) gaim segfaults.

Currently I don't have enough time to test it under normal
gaim2.0.0beta3 or try to recompile gaim OTR...

I read somewhere in the archives that the next version of gaim OTR won't
be released until gaim2.0.0 is. Imho it will take quite some time before
it will be released, but it's slowly getting stable. So, why don't you
do a beta-release with extra debuging options active (if the gaim peolpe
can do beta releases, why shouldn't you) - a beta plugin for a beta
program)? Hm, but on the other hand this would produce a lot of not
needed bug reports and corrections (because maybe the stable release of
gaim will be different).

Anyway, the plugin looks promissing and keep up the good work.


      gw



From mike at technomonkey.net  Sun Jul 16 19:27:24 2006
From: mike at technomonkey.net (mike at technomonkey.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 16:27:24 -0700
Subject: [OTR-users] Proxy port config file - where for win?
Message-ID: <web-45683455@bk1.webmaillogin.com>

There is apparently a file somewhere from which OTR reads 
config data for the proxy port settings (what proxys to 
enable, what ports to run them on). Does anyone know where 
this file is on a windows system? I failed to track it 
down using filemon. Any clues are appreciated.

This is based on the source forge feature request 
http://tinyurl.com/emu9q or 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid
=1518452&group_id=128860&atid=713091

-Mike


From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Sun Jul 16 20:31:39 2006
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:31:39 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] Proxy port config file - where for win?
In-Reply-To: <web-45683455@bk1.webmaillogin.com>
References: <web-45683455@bk1.webmaillogin.com>
Message-ID: <20060717003139.GB17587@smtp.paip.net>

On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 04:27:24PM -0700, mike at technomonkey.net wrote:
> There is apparently a file somewhere from which OTR reads 
> config data for the proxy port settings (what proxys to 
> enable, what ports to run them on). Does anyone know where 
> this file is on a windows system? I failed to track it 
> down using filemon. Any clues are appreciated.
> 
> This is based on the source forge feature request 
> http://tinyurl.com/emu9q or 
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid
> =1518452&group_id=128860&atid=713091

Check the registry; I think it might be hiding out in there.  It's a
wxConfig, which I think on Windows turns into a wxRegConfig, and on
other platforms turns into a wxFileConfig.

   - Ian


From erecio at polywog.org  Mon Jul 17 16:52:23 2006
From: erecio at polywog.org (Emilio Recio)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:52:23 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim Crashing when Generating Key on FC4
Message-ID: <44BBF887.2010902@polywog.org>

I compiled Gaim-1.5 from scratch and installed it (/usr/local). Then
compiled libotr, and gaim-otr, and installed it to /usr/local. Gaim-Otr
v3.0 works great with FC5. I do an ldd on gaim-otr.so and libotr.so and
all the libraries are found in their correct location.

I ran gaim with strace and I noticed that when it was asked to "generate
key" it opened /dev/random instead of /dev/urandom, and kept timing out.
I couldn't do anything else with the application, it froze even the
"repainting" of the application when moving the window around. I don't
know what it opened for the FC5 version (because it all just worked).

Has anyone had the same experience?

-E



From mike at technomonkey.net  Mon Jul 17 16:56:25 2006
From: mike at technomonkey.net (mike at technomonkey.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:56:25 -0700
Subject: [OTR-users] Proxy port config file - where for win?
In-Reply-To: <20060717003139.GB17587@smtp.paip.net>
References: <web-45683455@bk1.webmaillogin.com>
 <20060717003139.GB17587@smtp.paip.net>
Message-ID: <web-45175679@bk2.webmaillogin.com>

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:31:39 -0400
  Ian Goldberg <ian at cypherpunks.ca> wrote:
> 
> Check the registry; I think it might be hiding out in 
>there.  It's a
> wxConfig, which I think on Windows turns into a 
>wxRegConfig, and on
> other platforms turns into a wxFileConfig.
> 
>   - Ian

Beauty, those are in 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/OTRProxy/Settings thank you!


From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Mon Jul 17 17:16:21 2006
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:16:21 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim Crashing when Generating Key on FC4
In-Reply-To: <44BBF887.2010902@polywog.org>
References: <44BBF887.2010902@polywog.org>
Message-ID: <20060717211621.GG17587@smtp.paip.net>

On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 04:52:23PM -0400, Emilio Recio wrote:
> I compiled Gaim-1.5 from scratch and installed it (/usr/local). Then
> compiled libotr, and gaim-otr, and installed it to /usr/local. Gaim-Otr
> v3.0 works great with FC5. I do an ldd on gaim-otr.so and libotr.so and
> all the libraries are found in their correct location.
> 
> I ran gaim with strace and I noticed that when it was asked to "generate
> key" it opened /dev/random instead of /dev/urandom, and kept timing out.
> I couldn't do anything else with the application, it froze even the
> "repainting" of the application when moving the window around. I don't
> know what it opened for the FC5 version (because it all just worked).
> 
> Has anyone had the same experience?

Unless the packager for FC5 did something funny, it should also be
opening /dev/random.  libgcrypt recommends using GCRY_VERY_STRONG_RANDOM
(i.e. /dev/random) for long-term keys, and GCRY_STRONG_RANDOM (i.e.
/dev/urandom) for session keys.  If your machine is freezing up, it
means that for some reason, /dev/random hasn't accumulated enough
entropy, and is blocking the app (i.e. gaim) until it does.  So things
like jiggling the mouse, disk accesses, etc. should make it go at some
point.  However, it's been noted before that some implementations of
virtual private servers have a broken /dev/random that never returns
anything.  Is your FC4 maybe running on one of those?

   - Ian


From erecio at polywog.org  Mon Jul 17 19:08:03 2006
From: erecio at polywog.org (E. M. Recio)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:08:03 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim Crashing when Generating Key on FC4
In-Reply-To: <20060717211621.GG17587@smtp.paip.net>
References: <44BBF887.2010902@polywog.org> <20060717211621.GG17587@smtp.paip.net>
Message-ID: <44BC1853.60200@polywog.org>

Ian Goldberg wrote:

> Unless the packager for FC5 did something funny, it should also be
> opening /dev/random.  libgcrypt recommends using GCRY_VERY_STRONG_RANDOM
> (i.e. /dev/random) for long-term keys, and GCRY_STRONG_RANDOM (i.e.
> /dev/urandom) for session keys.  If your machine is freezing up, it
> means that for some reason, /dev/random hasn't accumulated enough
> entropy, and is blocking the app (i.e. gaim) until it does.  So things
> like jiggling the mouse, disk accesses, etc. should make it go at some
> point.  However, it's been noted before that some implementations of
> virtual private servers have a broken /dev/random that never returns
> anything.  Is your FC4 maybe running on one of those?


Thanks for the feedback. It's a real box, but, well apparently I wasn't 
waiting long enough. Your suggestion about not enough entropy was 
probably correct. I started up some audio apps, setiathome, and a bunch 
of other apps, and even then it took about 15 seconds.

Thanks!
-E


From paul at cypherpunks.ca  Mon Jul 17 22:06:58 2006
From: paul at cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:06:58 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim Crashing when Generating Key on FC4
In-Reply-To: <20060717211621.GG17587@smtp.paip.net>
References: <44BBF887.2010902@polywog.org> <20060717211621.GG17587@smtp.paip.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0607180402040.21355@tla.xelerance.com>

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Ian Goldberg wrote:

> > I ran gaim with strace and I noticed that when it was asked to "generate
> > key" it opened /dev/random instead of /dev/urandom, and kept timing out.
> > I couldn't do anything else with the application, it froze even the
> > "repainting" of the application when moving the window around. I don't
> > know what it opened for the FC5 version (because it all just worked).
> >
> > Has anyone had the same experience?
>
> Unless the packager for FC5 did something funny, it should also be
> opening /dev/random.

I did not do anything funny :)

I have noticed however, that on VIA cpu's with hw_random.ko loaded, which
means you get a new /dev/hw_random dvice, that the /dev/random device stops
producing any random. I also noticed in newer linux kernels, /dev/hw_random
seems obsoleted for /dev/hwrng, though a softlink is still made. Finally,
I noticed that with udev, those devices are made in mode 700, which means
only root can get random. I ran a chmod 755 /dev/hw_random /dev/hwrng in
rc.local.

If you are not running a VIA padlock machine, then there is another reason
why you are not getting any random. Running Xwindows on a box should really
fill up the random device with disk, mouse and keyboard events, so there is
something seriously broken if you run out of random. Is there another device
or application that you use that is providing lots of strong crypto that might
be using up all the generated random?

> point.  However, it's been noted before that some implementations of
> virtual private servers have a broken /dev/random that never returns
> anything.  Is your FC4 maybe running on one of those?

True. With xen2 guests, I have also had problems in the past with randomness,
but I believe those have been addressed now. I haven't had a problem with that
in a long time.

Paul


From larsenj at sosstaffing.com  Thu Jul 20 20:12:40 2006
From: larsenj at sosstaffing.com (Jonathan Larsen)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:12:40 -0600
Subject: [OTR-users] miranda / gaim compatibility
Message-ID: <003601c6ac5a$61802520$8c03310a@hcwan.net>

I use Miranda and a friend of mine uses gaim.  We both are using AOL to chat
with each other.

Tried using OTR for secure messaging and when ever my friend sends me a msg
through GAIM it sends it in HTML format.

Any ideas?

 

 

"If i was a rabbit, i would ROLL... ROLL!!!!!"

                                    -Kompressor

 

Jonathan Larsen

The Awesome I.S. Dept

Questions? mail us  <mailto:pc at sosstaffing.com> mailto:pc at sosstaffing.com

Call us 801.257.5754

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From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Thu Jul 20 21:53:08 2006
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:53:08 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] miranda / gaim compatibility
In-Reply-To: <003601c6ac5a$61802520$8c03310a@hcwan.net>
References: <003601c6ac5a$61802520$8c03310a@hcwan.net>
Message-ID: <20060721015308.GH17587@smtp.paip.net>

On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 06:12:40PM -0600, Jonathan Larsen wrote:
> I use Miranda and a friend of mine uses gaim.  We both are using AOL to chat
> with each other.
> 
> Tried using OTR for secure messaging and when ever my friend sends me a msg
> through GAIM it sends it in HTML format.
> 
> Any ideas?

Well, the AOL messaging format *is* HTML (or something a lot like it).
I seem to remember that, even when OTR isn't involved at all, if a gaim
(or any other AIM client) sends things like bold or italics to a miranda
user, the miranda user will see the HTML markup (indicating a bug in
miranda).  If my memory is in fact correct, that would probably explain
what you're seeing.

Are you using the miranda plugin, or otrproxy?

   - Ian


From prettyinpink08 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 25 19:52:52 2006
From: prettyinpink08 at gmail.com (jasmine baluyot)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:52:52 +0800
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR for Gaim 2 Beta 3
Message-ID: <8bf3e48a0607251652k33c993d6yb42428a96ebca331@mail.gmail.com>

Hello :)

After installing gaim2-otr-3.0.0.exe for gaim 2 beta 3, no plugin for otr
was available on gaim. How do I enable the plugin for otr?

Thanks!
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From erecio at polywog.org  Tue Jul 25 21:18:46 2006
From: erecio at polywog.org (E. M. Recio)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:18:46 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR for Gaim 2 Beta 3
In-Reply-To: <8bf3e48a0607251652k33c993d6yb42428a96ebca331@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bf3e48a0607251652k33c993d6yb42428a96ebca331@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44C6C2F6.5090203@polywog.org>

jasmine baluyot wrote:
> Hello :)
> 
> After installing gaim2-otr-3.0.0.exe for gaim 2 beta 3, no plugin for otr
> was available on gaim. How do I enable the plugin for otr?


As normal user, find the gaim-otr.so and type

"ldd /path/to/gaim-otr.so"

search through the list you get, and make sure that nothing is listed as 
"Not Found" on the right hand side. If it is, you need to make sure that 
libotr.so* and/or any other dependent libs are in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH or 
in /etc/ld.so.conf.

-E


From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Wed Jul 26 11:43:58 2006
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:43:58 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR for Gaim 2 Beta 3
In-Reply-To: <8bf3e48a0607251652k33c993d6yb42428a96ebca331@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bf3e48a0607251652k33c993d6yb42428a96ebca331@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060726154358.GQ17587@smtp.paip.net>

On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 07:52:52AM +0800, jasmine baluyot wrote:
> Hello :)
> 
> After installing gaim2-otr-3.0.0.exe for gaim 2 beta 3, no plugin for otr
> was available on gaim. How do I enable the plugin for otr?

Download http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/binaries/windows/gaim2b2-otr3.zip
and unzip it.  You'll find gaim-otr.dll, which you should just copy over
your existing one (in the gaim plugins directory).

[The gaim2beta2 plugins works fine on gaim2beta3.]

We really will get around to making an actual release at some point,
though we still need to decide whether to keep supporting gaim 1.5 or
not.

   - Ian


From thebrokenladder at gmail.com  Wed Jul 26 16:35:19 2006
From: thebrokenladder at gmail.com (CLAY S)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:35:19 -0700
Subject: [OTR-users] weird OTR refresh behavior
Message-ID: <eef643190607261335t3a1bf999h50cc91ca74cf0d38@mail.gmail.com>

How do you explain this stuff?  It keeps going no matter how many times I
refresh, until I end the private conversation then start up a new one.

(13:33:33) *NATE (GMAIL):* *The following message received from
noborny at gmail.com was not encrypted: [*yo*]*
(13:33:42) *Attempting to refresh the private conversation with
noborny at gmail.com/Gaim506316AD...*
(13:33:47) *ME (T.B.L.):* HI DUDE.
(13:33:48) *OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to noborny at gmail.com/Gaim,
who wasn't expecting it.*
(13:33:49) *Successfully refreshed the private conversation with
noborny at gmail.com/Gaim506316AD.*
(13:33:49) *The last message to noborny at gmail.com was resent.*
(13:33:50) *OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to noborny at gmail.com/Gaim,
who wasn't expecting it.*
(13:33:50) *Successfully refreshed the private conversation with
noborny at gmail.com/Gaim506316AD.*
(13:33:50) *The last message to noborny at gmail.com was resent.*
(13:33:51) *OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to noborny at gmail.com/Gaim,
who wasn't expecting it.*
(13:33:52) *Successfully refreshed the private conversation with
noborny at gmail.com/Gaim506316AD.*
(13:33:52) *The last message to noborny at gmail.com was resent.*
(13:33:53) *OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to noborny at gmail.com/Gaim,
who wasn't expecting it.*
(13:33:55) *Attempting to refresh the private conversation with
noborny at gmail.com/Gaim506316AD...*
(13:33:56) *Successfully refreshed the private conversation with
noborny at gmail.com/Gaim506316AD.*
(13:33:56) *The last message to noborny at gmail.com was resent.*
(13:33:57) *Private conversation with noborny at gmail.com/Gaim506316AD lost.*
(13:33:58) *Attempting to start a private conversation with
noborny at gmail.com/Gaim506316AD...*
(13:34:00) *Private conversation with noborny at gmail.com/Gaim506316ADstarted.
*

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From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Wed Jul 26 17:44:58 2006
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:44:58 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] weird OTR refresh behavior
In-Reply-To: <eef643190607261335t3a1bf999h50cc91ca74cf0d38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <eef643190607261335t3a1bf999h50cc91ca74cf0d38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060726214458.GS17587@smtp.paip.net>

On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 01:35:19PM -0700, CLAY S wrote:
> How do you explain this stuff?  It keeps going no matter how many times I
> refresh, until I end the private conversation then start up a new one.
> 
> (13:33:33) *NATE (GMAIL):* *The following message received from
> noborny at gmail.com was not encrypted: [*yo*]*
> (13:33:42) *Attempting to refresh the private conversation with
> noborny at gmail.com/Gaim506316AD...*
> (13:33:47) *ME (T.B.L.):* HI DUDE.
> (13:33:48) *OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to noborny at gmail.com/Gaim,
> who wasn't expecting it.*

Looks like gaim's confused as to whether it's talking to
noborny at gmail.com/Gaim or to noborny at gmail.com/Gaim506316AD.  You seem
to be talking to both in the same conversation window.

   - Ian


From prettyinpink08 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 26 19:32:21 2006
From: prettyinpink08 at gmail.com (jasmine baluyot)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:32:21 +0800
Subject: [OTR-users] OTR for Gaim 2 Beta 3
In-Reply-To: <20060726154358.GQ17587@smtp.paip.net>
References: <8bf3e48a0607251652k33c993d6yb42428a96ebca331@mail.gmail.com>
	 <20060726154358.GQ17587@smtp.paip.net>
Message-ID: <8bf3e48a0607261632s48a45122y909fe9e083e90b82@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks! I have otr now :)

Thanks a lot :D

On 7/26/06, Ian Goldberg <ian at cypherpunks.ca> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 07:52:52AM +0800, jasmine baluyot wrote:
> > Hello :)
> >
> > After installing gaim2-otr-3.0.0.exe for gaim 2 beta 3, no plugin for
> otr
> > was available on gaim. How do I enable the plugin for otr?
>
> Download http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/binaries/windows/gaim2b2-otr3.zip
> and unzip it.  You'll find gaim-otr.dll, which you should just copy over
> your existing one (in the gaim plugins directory).
>
> [The gaim2beta2 plugins works fine on gaim2beta3.]
>
> We really will get around to making an actual release at some point,
> though we still need to decide whether to keep supporting gaim 1.5 or
> not.
>
>    - Ian
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From aletbest83 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 28 23:48:34 2006
From: aletbest83 at hotmail.com (Alessandro Nontelodico)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 05:48:34 +0200
Subject: [OTR-users] wmiprvse.exe process
Message-ID: <BAY106-F10FE0E1892A5B9C5B3729D85E0@phx.gbl>

Hi all,

I have a question:
When an encrypted conversation start (windows xp sp2) start also (ever)in 
the same moment (i can see this with processguard) a process called 
wmiptvse.exe.  I'm asking if this is normal and if there are risk for the 
security (and the privacy) of the encrypted conversation.

Regards

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From ian at cypherpunks.ca  Sat Jul 29 09:18:36 2006
From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:18:36 -0400
Subject: [OTR-users] wmiprvse.exe process
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-F10FE0E1892A5B9C5B3729D85E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY106-F10FE0E1892A5B9C5B3729D85E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20060729131836.GF17587@smtp.paip.net>

On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 05:48:34AM +0200, Alessandro Nontelodico wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a question:
> When an encrypted conversation start (windows xp sp2) start also (ever)in 
> the same moment (i can see this with processguard) a process called 
> wmiptvse.exe.  I'm asking if this is normal and if there are risk for the 
> security (and the privacy) of the encrypted conversation.

Do you mean wmiprvse.exe?  Google suggest that's a normal Windows
process (though I'd never heard of it before, not being a Windows user
myself).  I have no idea why it would choose to start when you start an
encrypted session, unless it's triggered by libgcrypt's gathering of
random entropy from system events.

   - Ian