From cafevincent@europe.com Thu Jan 5 19:19:59 2006 From: cafevincent@europe.com (=?iso-8859-15?B?Q2Fm6SBWaW5jZW50?=) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:19:59 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] Trouble installing on Ubuntu Message-ID: <20060105191959.B365A1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Hello! I'm trying to install OTR to my GAIM running on Ubuntu 5.10. I'm following the help file entitled "Setting up OTR on Debian testing/unstable" (I forgot the link to it I just have it as html). Well anyway, I'm having trouble with the first part as I get an error message: sudo dpkg -i libotr-2.0.2-1.i386.rpm dpkg-deb: `libotr-2.0.2-1.i386.rpm' is not a debian format archive dpkg: error processing libotr-2.0.2-1.i386.rpm (--install): subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: libotr-2.0.2-1.i386.rpm I suppose I have the wrong package but they all are in rpm format! I have no idea what fedora code 3/4 etc are so I must be doing something wrong there, any help would be greatly appreciated! Please help me. :Vincent -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From ian@cypherpunks.ca Thu Jan 5 21:46:40 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:46:40 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Trouble installing on Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <20060105191959.B365A1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060105191959.B365A1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20060105214640.GM4463@smtp.paip.net> On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 09:19:59PM +0200, Caf? Vincent wrote: > Hello! > > I'm trying to install OTR to my GAIM running on Ubuntu 5.10. I'm > following the help file entitled "Setting up OTR on Debian > testing/unstable" (I forgot the link to it I just have it as html). > Well anyway, I'm having trouble with the first part as I get an error > message: Isn't gaim-otr just "part of" breezy? http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/gaim-otr would seem to suggest that just doing "apt-get install gaim-otr" should work. - Ian From lx@redundancy.redundancy.org Thu Jan 5 22:27:32 2006 From: lx@redundancy.redundancy.org (David Thiel) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 14:27:32 -0800 Subject: [OTR-users] malformed message loops Message-ID: <20060105222732.GA823@redundancy.redundancy.org> I'm using the Gaim 2.0 beta and the test version of otr 3.0.0 for gaim2, and just experienced this problem: (14:06:07) Lx: really long message, blah blah blah, about a paragraph all on one line (14:06:07) OTR Error: You transmitted a malformed data message (14:06:09) Successfully refreshed the private conversation with username. (14:06:09) The last message to username was resent. (14:06:09) OTR Error: You transmitted a malformed data message (14:06:10) Successfully refreshed the private conversation with username. (14:06:10) The last message to username was resent. (14:06:10) OTR Error: You transmitted a malformed data message (14:06:11) Successfully refreshed the private conversation with username. (14:06:11) The last message to username was resent. (14:06:11) OTR Error: You transmitted a malformed data message (and so on) I did see this once previously in older versions of gaim/otr. The person on the other side reported seeing "We got a malformed message from Lx". What is it that constitutes a malformed message? And if there is one, could you change it so that it won't cause a loop with the resends? Thanks, David From adam_zimmerman@ezrs.com Thu Jan 5 22:46:20 2006 From: adam_zimmerman@ezrs.com (Adam Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:46:20 -0800 Subject: [OTR-users] Trouble installing on Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <20060105214640.GM4463@smtp.paip.net> References: <20060105191959.B365A1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <20060105214640.GM4463@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: <1136501180.4723.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2006-05-01 at 16:46 -0500, Ian Goldberg wrote: > On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 09:19:59PM +0200, Caf? Vincent wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I'm trying to install OTR to my GAIM running on Ubuntu 5.10. I'm > > following the help file entitled "Setting up OTR on Debian > > testing/unstable" (I forgot the link to it I just have it as html). > > Well anyway, I'm having trouble with the first part as I get an error > > message: > > Isn't gaim-otr just "part of" breezy? > http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/gaim-otr would seem to suggest > that just doing "apt-get install gaim-otr" should work. > > - Ian The version in breezy is 2.0.2, so if you want the most up-to-date otr, then you'll need to compile it from source (the .tar.gz files). Otherwise yes, "apt-get install gaim-otr" will work. I've updated my documentation (now for Ubuntu instead of Debian), and I'll send it along to be put up on the website. -- Adam Zimmerman CREATIVITY - http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/movingimages/Building_on_the_Past.mpg ALWAYS - http://randomfoo.net/oscon/2002/lessig/ BUILDS - http://www.theopencd.org/ ON THE PAST - http://free-culture.org/freecontent/ -- EARTH smog | bricks AIR -- mud -- FIRE soda water | tequila WATER From paul@cypherpunks.ca Thu Jan 5 22:54:40 2006 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:54:40 +0100 (CET) Subject: [OTR-users] malformed message loops In-Reply-To: <20060105222732.GA823@redundancy.redundancy.org> References: <20060105222732.GA823@redundancy.redundancy.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, David Thiel wrote: > > (14:06:07) OTR Error: You transmitted a malformed data message > (14:06:09) Successfully refreshed the private conversation with username. > (14:06:09) The last message to username was resent. > (14:06:09) OTR Error: You transmitted a malformed data message > (14:06:10) Successfully refreshed the private conversation with username. > (14:06:10) The last message to username was resent. > (14:06:10) OTR Error: You transmitted a malformed data message > (14:06:11) Successfully refreshed the private conversation with username. > (14:06:11) The last message to username was resent. > (14:06:11) OTR Error: You transmitted a malformed data message > > (and so on) > > I did see this once previously in older versions of gaim/otr. The person > on the other side reported seeing "We got a malformed message from Lx". > What is it that constitutes a malformed message? And if there is one, > could you change it so that it won't cause a loop with the resends? I've seen this too. I think this happens when the other user is idle, and has a fingerprint screen to click on since you just changed machine/key, but I haven't been able to reproduce it yet. It seems to happen only when version 1 and 2 protocols are communicating. Paul From lx@redundancy.redundancy.org Thu Jan 5 23:09:21 2006 From: lx@redundancy.redundancy.org (David Thiel) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:09:21 -0800 Subject: [OTR-users] malformed message loops In-Reply-To: References: <20060105222732.GA823@redundancy.redundancy.org> Message-ID: <20060105230921.GB823@redundancy.redundancy.org> On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:54:40PM +0100, Paul Wouters wrote: > I've seen this too. I think this happens when the other user is idle, and > has a fingerprint screen to click on since you just changed machine/key, > but I haven't been able to reproduce it yet. It seems to happen only when > version 1 and 2 protocols are communicating. Hm, I can confirm that that wasn't the case here. This was in the middle of an established conversation with a WinGaim 1.5 user, who was reportedly using Version 3 of the otr plugin. From nikita@uiuc.edu Mon Jan 9 17:36:52 2006 From: nikita@uiuc.edu (Nikita Borisov) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:36:52 -0600 Subject: [OTR-users] Re: an OTR question. Can't find an answer to this anywhere else. In-Reply-To: <200601030336.k033aood003672@relay7.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <200601030336.k033aood003672@relay7.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <233143E2-1BB1-490D-BA2A-13626B6A5BFE@uiuc.edu> --Apple-Mail-2--392777152 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Pat, I'm not really sure what is happening here, but one thing to check is whether you have the gaim-encryption plugin enabled, since the messages shown here don't look like they were generated by OTR. I believe the OTR and gaim-encryption plugins are incompatible with each other. I'm forwarding your message to the otr-users mailing list, in case someone there knows more about this issue. - Nikita On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Pat wrote: > Recently when using GAIM with OTR I was getting visually encrypted > messages that were not being sent by the person with whom I was IMing. > > > > I am wonder what that was about and if you might be able to help me? > > > > I am copying what I saw below. This happened 2 or 3 times in our > conversation. The person with whom I was instant messaging did not > see this in their window. > > > > I am really curious what this was and if it had something to do > with OTR? > > > > Pat > > > > (19:48:16) Message could not be sent because the user is offline: > *** Encrypted :: Msg:S492e67793c:R2f86a806e9: Len 512:m > +LwE3LL4SM7BF79MHyfIvAzybp4IFpNi/ > IiYGtJWSpZOxtRlVONe5zmipgn1qSOuzgWEdVOdPEo/C+Z3eSCRU2mt > +sthzfqrF1JFLQk1oJDdgVfFI2yKzuTjHiiS6423BLqW03c5iWvP6h4ov4MgCLN > +RbHksgLdsustP+PNzDB2v+AaD3myn0cK7xOlpilHWf1wG7+/CTZbSZoL/ > e7g7SbHVcU2MyWPsIS0inJBoHa7shDu8s7B3LjB5LILfGqCsKgYoWEQdgNha5q78M0yw2L > V5aAmow2HEZxdiBDPQozay8yoDDuN8SdSZg4NVwrDC13ZlD9xdhSbyP/ > XRAIflBk6dDrTAr9KzPTEzFRpRUUkbuU5jJ74DSLbLPcv4YS1auUl/ > Hn8jY40QFLoi7q3c6rw > +eUHyziKgX0cgJP11mZXgWxpfN4yJ8nxoj1SfNOapU9n3mprgqmSgxdQ51WUrlPiVd2vHJ > zsXosqpfZJ8M2xe57U2s7LoAxO8wtwivI > (19:49:03) Daniel logged in. > (19:49:11) Daniel: sorry > > (19:57:28) Message could not be sent because the user is offline: > *** Encrypted :: Msg:S492e67793c:R2f86a806e9: Len > 684:SZLlzXPZu5yddf/JCPF8O7ic/NEkSp/nFwlFTfD7y/ > QFGa4mvQB8Rl5OdohgbNaP3cyLMPkKHiLPItc83hYf2ktamfxaQP8RPc5/ > Z31odbpE98dy0qoNEPnnTniO6W9C9kSgQBQSs2N0rHDPOgg5As5GblO+dvLuyp67YAm > +jilzAu/ > IT2Aybpv0FTclSQokMsyuOhgTurzGEg3aMNSmg9oMt0PoQc5rN0pw3UpUKg49Uvoc9kXWY > WPdr+b4W7OecG98kI/nrUJVPd3g3fbz94QqAPsNNHUzjqawpWkBXoKaGspY+8x/ > mQsTb7sC/USmnAHEgtBybfgcWHa7fC1lEsz4NrnuYtlf > +v4uzdsJOwS4hTo4sXNo8fTCfaZS8Mm9g72xNrT8trD7A1CKtTi0n7yKdNzyD7 > +UAYLha2Y9iiIllk7e+GqOSvNXu6WVbZFuFHA6k0aJ6ltRlbpCBpvXXuMP274dila8R/ > 98+1X5OLxeJ7ltobzlwqPEuJbD0/ > ENGwFfVMQa4CkBBxvdNL2z3evN4W4tFBRMS5nkIqcusqFesc6uIfYxQKf5qsN3x8yuggC0 > ESM40pSu7YcexREeyv/AYmHWW6kO93itlaDNWXgFVDlwxEPB/ > mLJKooAkB99zEj0YR4rdZ4cZk5XpT5WKFRYPOfMmpAsmOcb0foId9Y= > (19:59:42) Daniel logged in. > (20:00:05) Daniel: I missed what u were typing > > > > > > -- Nikita Borisov - http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~nikita/ Assistant Professor, Electrical and Computer Engineering Tel: (217) 244-5385, Office: 460 CSL --Apple-Mail-2--392777152 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Pat,

I'm not really sure what is = happening here, but one thing to check is whether you have the = gaim-encryption plugin enabled, since the messages shown here don't look = like they were generated=A0 by OTR.=A0 I believe the OTR and = gaim-encryption plugins are incompatible with each other.

I'm forwarding your message = to the otr-users mailing list, in case someone there knows more about = this issue.

- = Nikita

On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Pat = wrote:

Recently when = using GAIM with OTR I was getting visually encrypted messages that were = not being sent by the person with whom I was IMing.

I am wonder what = that was about and if you might be able to help me?

I am copying what = I saw below. This happened 2 or 3 times in our conversation. The person = with whom I was instant messaging did not see this in their = window.

I am really = curious what this was and if it had something to do with OTR?

Pat

(19:48:16) Message could not = be sent because the user is offline:
*** Encrypted :: = Msg:S492e67793c:R2f86a806e9: Len = 512:m+LwE3LL4SM7BF79MHyfIvAzybp4IFpNi/IiYGtJWSpZOxtRlVONe5zmipgn1qSOuzgWEd= VOdPEo/C+Z3eSCRU2mt+sthzfqrF1JFLQk1oJDdgVfFI2yKzuTjHiiS6423BLqW03c5iWvP6h4= ov4MgCLN+RbHksgLdsustP+PNzDB2v+AaD3myn0cK7xOlpilHWf1wG7+/CTZbSZoL/e7g7SbHV= cU2MyWPsIS0inJBoHa7shDu8s7B3LjB5LILfGqCsKgYoWEQdgNha5q78M0yw2LV5aAmow2HEZx= diBDPQozay8yoDDuN8SdSZg4NVwrDC13ZlD9xdhSbyP/XRAIflBk6dDrTAr9KzPTEzFRpRUUkb= uU5jJ74DSLbLPcv4YS1auUl/Hn8jY40QFLoi7q3c6rw+eUHyziKgX0cgJP11mZXgWxpfN4yJ8n= xoj1SfNOapU9n3mprgqmSgxdQ51WUrlPiVd2vHJzsXosqpfZJ8M2xe57U2s7LoAxO8wtwivI
(19:49:03) Daniel logged = in.
Daniel: sorry

(19:57:28) Message could not = be sent because the user is offline:
*** Encrypted :: = Msg:S492e67793c:R2f86a806e9: Len = 684:SZLlzXPZu5yddf/JCPF8O7ic/NEkSp/nFwlFTfD7y/QFGa4mvQB8Rl5OdohgbNaP3cyLMP= kKHiLPItc83hYf2ktamfxaQP8RPc5/Z31odbpE98dy0qoNEPnnTniO6W9C9kSgQBQSs2N0rHDP= Ogg5As5GblO+dvLuyp67YAm+jilzAu/IT2Aybpv0FTclSQokMsyuOhgTurzGEg3aMNSmg9oMt0= PoQc5rN0pw3UpUKg49Uvoc9kXWYWPdr+b4W7OecG98kI/nrUJVPd3g3fbz94QqAPsNNHUzjqaw= pWkBXoKaGspY+8x/mQsTb7sC/USmnAHEgtBybfgcWHa7fC1lEsz4NrnuYtlf+v4uzdsJOwS4hT= o4sXNo8fTCfaZS8Mm9g72xNrT8trD7A1CKtTi0n7yKdNzyD7+UAYLha2Y9iiIllk7e+GqOSvNX= u6WVbZFuFHA6k0aJ6ltRlbpCBpvXXuMP274dila8R/98+1X5OLxeJ7ltobzlwqPEuJbD0/ENGw= FfVMQa4CkBBxvdNL2z3evN4W4tFBRMS5nkIqcusqFesc6uIfYxQKf5qsN3x8yuggC0ESM40pSu= 7YcexREeyv/AYmHWW6kO93itlaDNWXgFVDlwxEPB/mLJKooAkB99zEj0YR4rdZ4cZk5XpT5WKF= RYPOfMmpAsmOcb0foId9Y=3D
(19:59:42) = Daniel logged = in.
Daniel: I missed what u were typing=A0

=A0



=
--=A0
Assistant Professor, Electrical and Computer = Engineering
Tel: (217) 244-5385, Office: 460 = CSL


= --Apple-Mail-2--392777152-- From dguido@gmail.com Wed Jan 11 04:56:27 2006 From: dguido@gmail.com (Daniel Guido) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:56:27 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR use in email Message-ID: <9c2204930601102056o7d48b2e7l5352b8b6428bfb01@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_81800_21799965.1136955387364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no working implementation of OTR for e-mail yet is there? If one wanted to have anonymous, confidential communication via e-mail, wha= t would you use? Note the anonymous part, I don't believe PGP will satisfy me. Options like hushmail and s-mail are also not options at all, as they're the same as a single hop proxy. What do you reccommend? -- Dan Guido ------=_Part_81800_21799965.1136955387364 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no working implementation of OTR for = e-mail yet is there?

If one wanted to have anonymous, confidential c= ommunication via e-mail, what would you use?  Note the anonymous part,= I don't believe PGP will satisfy me.  Options like hushmail and s-mai= l are also not options at all, as they're the same as a single hop proxy.&n= bsp; What do you reccommend?
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On Tue, 2006-10-01 at 23:56 -0500, Daniel Guido wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no working implementation of OTR > for e-mail yet is there? > > If one wanted to have anonymous, confidential communication via > e-mail, what would you use? Note the anonymous part, I don't believe > PGP will satisfy me. Options like hushmail and s-mail are also not > options at all, as they're the same as a single hop proxy. What do > you reccommend? > -- > Dan Guido Look into using anonymous remailers perhaps. Send an email to help@nym.alias.net for info on setting up a pseudonym there. It won't be deniable AND authenticated at the same time (you either will use PGP to sign your messages with a separate key, or you won't) but it will be anonymous. The remailer system can be a bit unreliable though, so be warned. -- Adam Zimmerman CREATIVITY - http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/movingimages/Building_on_the_Past.mpg ALWAYS - http://randomfoo.net/oscon/2002/lessig/ BUILDS - http://www.theopencd.org/ ON THE PAST - http://free-culture.org/freecontent/ -- "So far as religion of the day is concerned, it is a damned fake... Religion is all bunk." [Thomas Edison] From firefox-gen@walala.org Sun Jan 15 05:47:51 2006 From: firefox-gen@walala.org (A. Bourdon) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 21:47:51 -0800 Subject: [OTR-users] Where in GAIM's folders do the compiled plug-ins go? Message-ID: <20060114214751.269hqepm6v44wko4@libertarianactivism.com> Dear Fellow users, I have finally figured out how to configure and successfully compile the latest OTR plugin for GAIM 1.5. However, the plugin does not show up in GAIM's plug-ins menu in the Options window. Where is Gaim looking for plugins by default? Is there a config file I can edit or should I just copy the OTR plugin files from their default 'make install' location to /path/to/gaim/search/folder ? Thanks, Andrew From adam_zimmerman@ezrs.com Sun Jan 15 17:43:46 2006 From: adam_zimmerman@ezrs.com (Adam Zimmerman) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:43:46 -0800 Subject: [OTR-users] Where in GAIM's folders do the compiled plug-ins go? In-Reply-To: <20060114214751.269hqepm6v44wko4@libertarianactivism.com> References: <20060114214751.269hqepm6v44wko4@libertarianactivism.com> Message-ID: <1137347026.14471.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2006-14-01 at 21:47 -0800, A. Bourdon wrote: > Dear Fellow users, > > I have finally figured out how to configure and successfully compile the latest > OTR plugin for GAIM 1.5. However, the plugin does not show up in GAIM's > plug-ins menu in the Options window. Where is Gaim looking for plugins by > default? Is there a config file I can edit or should I just copy the OTR plugin > files from their default 'make install' location to /path/to/gaim/search/folder > ? > That's odd. make install should put the plugin into gaim's plugin folder. I wonder if it has something to do with the prefix set by the configure script. Try again, this time doing: ./configure --prefix=/usr -- Adam Zimmerman CREATIVITY - http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/movingimages/Building_on_the_Past.mpg ALWAYS - http://randomfoo.net/oscon/2002/lessig/ BUILDS - http://www.theopencd.org/ ON THE PAST - http://free-culture.org/freecontent/ -- May you die in bed at 95, shot by a jealous spouse. From rguerra@lists.privaterra.org Tue Jan 17 15:24:20 2006 From: rguerra@lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:24:20 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Freenet .7 - Call for alpha sites... Message-ID: <66673DDA-6AB4-4682-A458-5D2BAD2A0EE7@lists.privaterra.org> I thought i'd pass this along to this list , hoping some of you might be able to help with the alpha testing of the new .7 version of freenet. regards Robert Freenet 0.7 is still a testnet, with no real anonymity, (with a built in back door to browse old logs, and a central server to which all nodes are reported) but if you don't mind that, feel free to come test it with us on #freenet on irc.freenode.net. It has a disk usage of well under 2GB, including the 512MB datastore. What is the next step? Apart from debugging... - Basic FCP. - Download/upload manager. - Updatable keys. -- Details on how to install & configure a .7 server can be found here : http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetZeroPointSeven Covert Communication in a Dark Network http://events.ccc.de/congress/2005/fahrplan/events/492.en.html A major new version of freenet At Defcon 13, we presented our ideas for creating scalable networks where only trusted friends speak directly to each other. In this talk, we will elaborate on this, discussing further experiments and results, as well as our attempts to build such a network for real. We believe that such networks, because they are covert and difficult to detect, are the only viable future for peer-to-peer communication in a time when it is under attack from all sides. The problem with such "dark" networks, or Darknets, is that peers in general are connected only through sequences of friends knowing friends. In order to create a network that still allows global communication, one must find a way of searching efficiently for such paths between hosts. This is where we have focused our attention: if one can efficiently find such paths, then one can use the known techniques of distributed hashtables to make a working, searchable, network. We have now begun our plan towards actually deploying a version of Freenet based on these principles: a file sharing network where only once trusted friends will know that one is even participating. Since it is to be the next version of Freenet, we also intend for it to offer anonymity and replication to protect against censorship. In this talk, we will further elaborate on the ideas and the issues we are facing. We will discuss further experiments and results, as well as our initial experiences of attempting to create such a network for the real world. As before, we will present both the theoretical aspects of our research, which has its roots in deep mathematical results, and the practical aspects of what we are trying to achieve. -- Robert Guerra Director, Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (CPSR) Tel +1 416 893 0377 Fax +1 416 893 0374 From firefox-gen@walala.org Wed Jan 18 19:56:07 2006 From: firefox-gen@walala.org (ADB) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:56:07 -0800 Subject: [OTR-users] GAIM's plugins folder Message-ID: <43CE9D57.7030600@walala.org> Dear Fellow OTR Users, I got OTR to compile just fine after I installed the required *-dev packages, but now I don't know what folder to copy the resulting plug-ins to. I ran into this conundrum because I went to the GAIM plug-ins menu after doing the OTR 'make install' and nothing showed up. Thanks, ADB From ian@cypherpunks.ca Wed Jan 18 21:36:15 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:36:15 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] GAIM's plugins folder In-Reply-To: <43CE9D57.7030600@walala.org> References: <43CE9D57.7030600@walala.org> Message-ID: <20060118213615.GA31179@smtp.paip.net> On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:56:07AM -0800, ADB wrote: > Dear Fellow OTR Users, > I got OTR to compile just fine after I installed the required *-dev > packages, but now I don't know what folder to copy the resulting > plug-ins to. I ran into this conundrum because I went to the GAIM > plug-ins menu after doing the OTR 'make install' and nothing showed up. It should go where all the other ones go; probably something like /usr/lib/gaim/ but maybe /usr/local/lib/gaim/ . If that's where you're putting it, but it's still not showing up, run "gaim -d" to see what the problem is. - Ian From dguido@gmail.com Thu Jan 19 06:34:13 2006 From: dguido@gmail.com (Daniel Guido) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:34:13 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] no debs? Message-ID: <9c2204930601182234l3bed5d54r18c0a8b51990c990@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_13541_3503412.1137652453602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline What's going on? Why aren't there any deb packages for the new OTR software? I'm on Ubuntu and I keep throwing a fit in the forums trying to get them to update from the 2.0 series to 3.0 and they always give me some lame answer about their not being any deb packages. I'd do it but I don't know how. Anyone up for it? -- Dan Guido ------=_Part_13541_3503412.1137652453602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline What's going on?  Why aren't there any deb packages for the new OTR so= ftware?  I'm on Ubuntu and I keep throwing a fit in the forums trying = to get them to update from the 2.0 series to 3.0 and they always give me so= me lame answer about their not being any deb packages.  I'd do it but = I don't know how.  Anyone up for it?
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Dan Guido ------=_Part_13541_3503412.1137652453602-- From ian@cypherpunks.ca Thu Jan 19 15:24:33 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:24:33 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] no debs? In-Reply-To: <9c2204930601182234l3bed5d54r18c0a8b51990c990@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c2204930601182234l3bed5d54r18c0a8b51990c990@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060119152433.GD31179@smtp.paip.net> On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:34:13AM -0500, Daniel Guido wrote: > What's going on? Why aren't there any deb packages for the new OTR > software? I'm on Ubuntu and I keep throwing a fit in the forums trying to > get them to update from the 2.0 series to 3.0 and they always give me some > lame answer about their not being any deb packages. I'd do it but I don't > know how. Anyone up for it? There's now an official Debian maintainer, so the debs just live in the standard Debian repositories. The same goes for Fedora, Ubuntu, and others. Here's the Ubuntu link: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/gaim-otr - Ian From firefox-gen@walala.org Thu Jan 19 20:54:14 2006 From: firefox-gen@walala.org (ADB) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:54:14 -0800 Subject: [OTR-users] Re: OTR-users digest, Vol 1 #150 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: <20060119113212.20041.89361.Mailman@brandeis.paip.net> References: <20060119113212.20041.89361.Mailman@brandeis.paip.net> Message-ID: <43CFFC76.5090008@walala.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000808050609000408080800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neither path seems to exist. what is the file tree for this program supposed to look like? Perhaps I can find it via locate/slocate... > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:56:07AM -0800, ADB wrote: > >> Dear Fellow OTR Users, >> I got OTR to compile just fine after I installed the required *-dev >> packages, but now I don't know what folder to copy the resulting >> plug-ins to. I ran into this conundrum because I went to the GAIM >> plug-ins menu after doing the OTR 'make install' and nothing showed up. >> > > It should go where all the other ones go; probably something like > /usr/lib/gaim/ but maybe /usr/local/lib/gaim/ . > > If that's where you're putting it, but it's still not showing up, run > "gaim -d" to see what the problem is. > > - Ian > > --------------000808050609000408080800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neither path seems to exist. what is the file tree for this program supposed to look like? Perhaps I can find it via locate/slocate...
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:56:07AM -0800, ADB wrote:
  
Dear Fellow OTR Users,
   I got OTR to compile just fine after I installed the required *-dev 
packages, but now I don't know what folder to copy the resulting 
plug-ins to. I ran into this conundrum because I went to the GAIM 
plug-ins menu after doing the OTR 'make install' and nothing showed up.
    

It should go where all the other ones go; probably something like
/usr/lib/gaim/ but maybe /usr/local/lib/gaim/ .

If that's where you're putting it, but it's still not showing up, run
"gaim -d" to see what the problem is.

   - Ian
--------------000808050609000408080800-- From nikita@uiuc.edu Thu Jan 19 21:05:51 2006 From: nikita@uiuc.edu (Nikita Borisov) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:05:51 -0600 Subject: [OTR-users] Re: OTR-users digest, Vol 1 #150 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: <43CFFC76.5090008@walala.org> References: <20060119113212.20041.89361.Mailman@brandeis.paip.net> <43CFFC76.5090008@walala.org> Message-ID: <16f0378d0601191305h1f24bbafs49d39ace80fd0e0e@mail.gmail.com> You can look for one of the common gaim plugins, such as libmsn.so. Also, if you run "gaim -d", it should print out the plugins it is loading and where they are located. - Nikita On 1/19/06, ADB wrote: > Neither path seems to exist. what is the file tree for this program > supposed to look like? Perhaps I can find it via locate/slocate... > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:56:07AM -0800, ADB wrote: > > > Dear Fellow OTR Users, > I got OTR to compile just fine after I installed the required *-dev > packages, but now I don't know what folder to copy the resulting > plug-ins to. I ran into this conundrum because I went to the GAIM > plug-ins menu after doing the OTR 'make install' and nothing showed up. > > It should go where all the other ones go; probably something like > /usr/lib/gaim/ but maybe /usr/local/lib/gaim/ . > > If that's where you're putting it, but it's still not showing up, run > "gaim -d" to see what the problem is. > > - Ian > > > From eddydakillabee@gmail.com Thu Jan 19 21:45:28 2006 From: eddydakillabee@gmail.com (Eddy Da KillaBee) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:45:28 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR for Windows, Binary-Only? Message-ID: <43D00878.2010609@gmail.com> Hey guys!

Due to the fact that I have GTK 2.8.x for The GIMP and then I'm using a little trick to have GTK 2.6.x for Gaim 2 (Gaim-Portable, that is), I need the OTR plugin that does not use the installer in Windows. The installer looks to see if Gaim is installed, which according to it, it isn't (since I didn't use the Gaim installer either). Any help would be awesome, and thanks in advance, guys (and gals)!

-Eddy
 From lydgate@gmail.com Mon Jan 23 05:01:29 2006 From: lydgate@gmail.com (Bryan Kam) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:01:29 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Terminal proxy? Message-ID: ------=_Part_11721_19304297.1137992489100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I think this may have been mentioned before because I remember reading some discussion of curses wxWidget implementation, but I am wondering if there are any plans to allow OTR Proxy to run in terminal mode. It is sort of annoying to lose the AIM connection just for restarting X, and also it woul= d be easier to manage through SSH if it were text only. I have talked to the developer of the AIM client I use (Claudio Leite, who writes bsflite) and h= e said that he did look at the code for OTR but for some reason it wasn't eas= y for him to implement. Not being a coder, I'm just wondering if there will any way to achieve this in the near future... Bryan ------=_Part_11721_19304297.1137992489100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I think this may have been mentioned before because I remember reading some= discussion of curses wxWidget implementation, but I am wondering if there = are any plans to allow OTR Proxy to run in terminal mode.  It is sort = of annoying to lose the AIM connection just for restarting X, and also it w= ould be easier to manage through SSH if it were text only.  I have tal= ked to the developer of the AIM client I use (Claudio Leite, who writes bsf= lite) and he said that he did look at the code for OTR but for some reason = it wasn't easy for him to implement.  Not being a coder, I'm just wond= ering if there will any way to achieve this in the near future...

Bryan
------=_Part_11721_19304297.1137992489100-- From ian@cypherpunks.ca Mon Jan 23 14:58:31 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:58:31 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Terminal proxy? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060123145831.GO31179@smtp.paip.net> On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:01:29AM -0500, Bryan Kam wrote: > I think this may have been mentioned before because I remember reading some > discussion of curses wxWidget implementation, but I am wondering if there > are any plans to allow OTR Proxy to run in terminal mode. It is sort of > annoying to lose the AIM connection just for restarting X, and also it would > be easier to manage through SSH if it were text only. I have talked to the > developer of the AIM client I use (Claudio Leite, who writes bsflite) and he > said that he did look at the code for OTR but for some reason it wasn't easy > for him to implement. Not being a coder, I'm just wondering if there will > any way to achieve this in the near future... otrproxy is in fact specifically written to have a clear separation between functionality and UI, exactly so someone could write a text-based (ncurses?) front end. Someone just has to volunteer to do it. 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There's a patch on the web site to make gaim-otr compile under either gaim 1 or gaim 2 (except that the gaim 2 API changed again recently). 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Which file do i apply it to? Several files; each section of patch is preceded by the file it applies to. The "patch" program on *nix will do this automatically for you. I don't know what the situation is on Windows. - Ian From paul@cypherpunks.ca Tue Jan 24 18:14:57 2006 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:14:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: [OTR-users] gaim 2 In-Reply-To: <20060123235012.GR31179@smtp.paip.net> References: <9129d8bb0601221641w70312930uca4c94cd783433e9@mail.gmail.com> <20060123235012.GR31179@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Ian Goldberg wrote: > On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 04:41:36PM -0800, CLAY SHENTRUP wrote: > > maybe i wasn't paying attention when somebody previously brought this up, > > but where can i get the source for otr for gaim 2 for *nix? > > There's a patch on the web site to make gaim-otr compile under either > gaim 1 or gaim 2 (except that the gaim 2 API changed again recently). Are you releasing this code anytime soon? I'd like otr to be able to talk to gaim-2 once fedora core updates to that. Though it still seems that Fedora Core 5 test 2 is still shipping with gaim-1.5. Paul From bean62@hotmail.com Tue Jan 24 19:45:02 2006 From: bean62@hotmail.com (ben k) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:45:02 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim 2, beta 2 In-Reply-To: <20060124011128.GS31179@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: At least for me, OTR isn't working with the Gaim 2 Beta 2 (released Jan 24th). The plugin doesn't show up or load with the new gaim 2 beta 2. I know it just came out today and it's just a beta, but I was wondering if someone would make a win32 compiled version that will work with the new gaim 2 beta. Keep up the excellent (and greatly appreciated) OTR work. -ben _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From ian@cypherpunks.ca Tue Jan 24 19:59:34 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:59:34 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] gaim 2 In-Reply-To: References: <9129d8bb0601221641w70312930uca4c94cd783433e9@mail.gmail.com> <20060123235012.GR31179@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: <20060124195934.GW31179@smtp.paip.net> On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 07:14:57PM +0100, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Ian Goldberg wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 04:41:36PM -0800, CLAY SHENTRUP wrote: > > > maybe i wasn't paying attention when somebody previously brought this up, > > > but where can i get the source for otr for gaim 2 for *nix? > > > > There's a patch on the web site to make gaim-otr compile under either > > gaim 1 or gaim 2 (except that the gaim 2 API changed again recently). > > Are you releasing this code anytime soon? I'd like otr to be able to > talk to gaim-2 once fedora core updates to that. Though it still seems that > Fedora Core 5 test 2 is still shipping with gaim-1.5. The problem is that the gaim-2 API is still changing; I'd rather not have an "official" release until gaim-2 is released, or at least they swear the API won't change any more. - Ian From eugene.vasserman@gmail.com Tue Jan 24 19:43:06 2006 From: eugene.vasserman@gmail.com (Eugene Y. Vasserman) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:43:06 -0600 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR3 and Gaim2.0Beta2 Message-ID: <43D6834A.1090609@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 So, OTR3 seems to no longer work with Gaim2 Beta2 (I think I remember it working with Beta1). The plugin does not load (the specified procedure could not be found). Anyone else seeing this? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD1oNKmjBKecAKia8RA3mzAJ4q3mokJMMIxB2Uz0XxAN/NZZfjYwCfbi/C vcB1E/pu381N6WNiOPM1buk= =n5uS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ian@cypherpunks.ca Tue Jan 24 22:35:18 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:35:18 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim 2, beta 2 In-Reply-To: References: <20060124011128.GS31179@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: <20060124223518.GY31179@smtp.paip.net> On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 02:45:02PM -0500, ben k wrote: > At least for me, OTR isn't working with the Gaim 2 Beta 2 (released Jan > 24th). The plugin doesn't show up or load with the new gaim 2 beta 2. I > know it just came out today and it's just a beta, but I was wondering if > someone would make a win32 compiled version that will work with the new > gaim 2 beta. Yes, that's the result of gaim's API change. I'll see if I can get to it tomorrow. > Keep up the excellent (and greatly appreciated) OTR work. Thanks. :-) - Ian From ian@cypherpunks.ca Wed Jan 25 20:25:37 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:25:37 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim 2, beta 2 In-Reply-To: <20060124223518.GY31179@smtp.paip.net> References: <20060124011128.GS31179@smtp.paip.net> <20060124223518.GY31179@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: <20060125202537.GG31179@smtp.paip.net> On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 05:35:18PM -0500, Ian Goldberg wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 02:45:02PM -0500, ben k wrote: > > At least for me, OTR isn't working with the Gaim 2 Beta 2 (released Jan > > 24th). The plugin doesn't show up or load with the new gaim 2 beta 2. I > > know it just came out today and it's just a beta, but I was wondering if > > someone would make a win32 compiled version that will work with the new > > gaim 2 beta. > > Yes, that's the result of gaim's API change. I'll see if I can get to > it tomorrow. OK, try this. It's just a .zip containing the replacement .dll file; you'll have to manually stick it where it belongs (just copy it over the existing (and non-working) gaim-otr.dll file, after exiting gaim). http://otr.cypherpunks.ca/binaries/windows/gaim2b2-otr3.zip Let me know if it works OK. (I don't have a Windows box at all.) - Ian From bean62@hotmail.com Wed Jan 25 20:44:41 2006 From: bean62@hotmail.com (ben k) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:44:41 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim 2, beta 2 In-Reply-To: <20060125202537.GG31179@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: Thank you very much. I have confirmation from a Windows user that it works with Gaim beta 2. Thanks! -ben >From: Ian Goldberg >To: otr-users@lists.cypherpunks.ca >Subject: Re: [OTR-users] Gaim 2, beta 2 >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:25:37 -0500 > >On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 05:35:18PM -0500, Ian Goldberg wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 02:45:02PM -0500, ben k wrote: > > > At least for me, OTR isn't working with the Gaim 2 Beta 2 (released >Jan > > > 24th). The plugin doesn't show up or load with the new gaim 2 beta 2. > I > > > know it just came out today and it's just a beta, but I was wondering >if > > > someone would make a win32 compiled version that will work with the >new > > > gaim 2 beta. > > > > Yes, that's the result of gaim's API change. I'll see if I can get to > > it tomorrow. > >OK, try this. It's just a .zip containing the replacement .dll file; >you'll have to manually stick it where it belongs (just copy it over the >existing (and non-working) gaim-otr.dll file, after exiting gaim). > >http://otr.cypherpunks.ca/binaries/windows/gaim2b2-otr3.zip > >Let me know if it works OK. (I don't have a Windows box at all.) > > - Ian >_______________________________________________ >OTR-users mailing list >OTR-users@lists.cypherpunks.ca >http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From shane@shaneland.co.uk Thu Jan 26 11:30:03 2006 From: shane@shaneland.co.uk (Shane M. Coughlan) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:30:03 +0000 Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim 2, beta 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43D8B2BB.80304@shaneland.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi there I'm currently testing OTR plugin for Gaim 2 beta 2, and am pleased to report that I can see the OTR button on message windows. It will be a while before it's fully tested on my system. A note: I think it might be time to consider moving the OTR notification button (or changing it entirely). Because of the new UI, the OTR button makes the message window too wide. Perhaps it would be more useful to have a text based notification on the menu bar or something like that? Regards Shane - -- Shane Martin Coughlan e: shane@shaneland.co.uk m: +447773180107 w: www.shaneland.co.uk - --- Projects: http://mobility.opendawn.com http://gem.opendawn.com http://enigmail.mozdev.org http://www.winpt.org - --- OpenPGP: http://www.shaneland.co.uk/personalpages/shane/files/publickey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3-cvs-3991: (MingW32) iQCVAwUBQ9iyu9wG3M95JPpzAQjYIwP+M86Ct32jLrC5J8IgvG/aKpQNJYiVRWKK TwBizY4oWL7mU4c2cAzpksKcu8AbhOft7nFKc3K19KJKNFavhcqXrMYX2OzdIVTQ N1ECOc96HE/AxTFq4CFO2IvTM52R5n7R+0EQxkyOoCNbn7a9vXI2gFXYTeEONHNW bUPEkbCp5NQ= =CzYb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From iamski@gmail.com Thu Jan 26 15:52:28 2006 From: iamski@gmail.com (Mitch Lewandowski) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:52:28 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] otr w/gaim2 Message-ID: The gaim2 patch that is on the site's frontpage doesn't work with gaim2-beta2; is there an updated one that I could snag from somewhere? Much thanks, Mitch From ian@cypherpunks.ca Thu Jan 26 16:36:45 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:36:45 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim 2, beta 2 In-Reply-To: <43D8B2BB.80304@shaneland.co.uk> References: <43D8B2BB.80304@shaneland.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060126163645.GL31179@smtp.paip.net> On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 11:30:03AM +0000, Shane M. Coughlan wrote: > I'm currently testing OTR plugin for Gaim 2 beta 2, and am pleased to > report that I can see the OTR button on message windows. It will be a > while before it's fully tested on my system. > > A note: I think it might be time to consider moving the OTR > notification button (or changing it entirely). Because of the new UI, > the OTR button makes the message window too wide. Perhaps it would be > more useful to have a text based notification on the menu bar or > something like that? Yes, I've been told gaim 2 allows plugins to add things to the menu bar, but I haven't checked it out myself. If so, that's certainly a possibility. - Ian From ian@cypherpunks.ca Thu Jan 26 16:38:12 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:38:12 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] otr w/gaim2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060126163812.GM31179@smtp.paip.net> On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 10:52:28AM -0500, Mitch Lewandowski wrote: > The gaim2 patch that is on the site's frontpage doesn't work with > gaim2-beta2; is there an updated one that I could snag from somewhere? 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"autoreconf -s -i" usually does the right thing (as mentioned in INSTALL). But you can use "cvs diff -u -rrelease_3_0_0 -Dnow" (or something like that) to get the patch between the last release and now. - Ian From rguerra@lists.privaterra.org Sat Jan 28 16:36:45 2006 From: rguerra@lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:36:45 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] Software Engineer position @ Citizen Lab Message-ID: <4CE1CB8E-71DA-4D73-98FC-9CCB0848E944@lists.privaterra.org> I'm passing this along for the folks at the Citizenlab. Please do contact them directly should you be interested... Regards Robert --- POSITION SUMMARY Software Engineer Citizen Lab Munk Centre for International Studies University of Toronto http://tinyurl.com/cmq6p As a key member of the Citizen Lab Development team, the Software Engineer will be programming and testing the software for a new Citizen Lab project, called the CiviSec Project. The aim of the CiviSec Project is to help individuals at risk (e.g., human rights activists) or those who live in countries where electronic communications are censored and monitored, to communicate securely, privately, and anonymously. The position requires a person with prior experience in software development projects, including the management of a programming team, as well as a strong commitment to human rights, such as access to information and freedom of speech. As the job entails working with people at risk, a serious commitment to confidentiality is very important. The Software Engineer will be responsible for the day-to-day management and ultimate delivery of varied software development projects at the Citizen Lab. As the successful candidate, you'll work with the Citizen Lab Management Team to determine requirements, keep the development effort organized and on track, and manage developers under your control. This position requires both organizational capabilities and programming skill. The Citizen Lab is an interdisciplinary research and development lab based at the Munk Centre for International Studies at the University of Toronto. The Citizen Lab’s present research focuses on Internet censorship and surveillance worldwide, and entails partnerships with human rights activists and organizations around the world. RESPONSIBILITIES * Analyze project needs and develop clear and concise requirements documents * Maintain team focus and keep all stakeholders aware of project progress * Work with developers on projects (requires programming skill) * Manage bug tracking and deliver finished projects ESSENTIAL SKILLS AND QUALIFICATIONS * Prior software development management experience * Minimum 3 years experience in Python development * Experience with Subversion * Experience with TCP/IP and related protocols * Experience with PKI CONTACT hr@citizenlab.org E-mail your CV along with a one-page cover letter that provides an overview of how your background and interest make you a suitable candidate for the position. From josh@vitriolix.com Sat Jan 28 17:59:26 2006 From: josh@vitriolix.com (Josh Steiner) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:59:26 -0800 Subject: [OTR-users] otr 3 / gaim 2 beta2 / windows Message-ID: <43DBB0FE.30705@vitriolix.com> hey folks, anyone have any suggestoins on how to get the otr plugin to work on gaim 2 beta 2 for windows? when i run the installer it gives no error messages, but the plugin never shows up in hte plugin list in gaim 2 . there is a "gaim2-otr.dll" in the C:\Program Files\Gaim\plugins folder, but not in the list... thanks, have a nice weekend -josh -- ________________________________________________________________ tasty electronic music vittles -- bluevitriol.com the only music blog you need -- playtherecords.com you are the dj. interactive music -- improbableorchestra.com random observations of the bizarre -- vitriolix.com From ian@cypherpunks.ca Sat Jan 28 20:06:26 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:06:26 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] otr 3 / gaim 2 beta2 / windows In-Reply-To: <43DBB0FE.30705@vitriolix.com> References: <43DBB0FE.30705@vitriolix.com> Message-ID: <20060128200626.GG31179@smtp.paip.net> On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 09:59:26AM -0800, Josh Steiner wrote: > hey folks, anyone have any suggestoins on how to get the otr plugin to > work on gaim 2 beta 2 for windows? when i run the installer it gives no > error messages, but the plugin never shows up in hte plugin list in gaim > 2 . > > there is a "gaim2-otr.dll" in the C:\Program Files\Gaim\plugins folder, > but not in the list... > > thanks, have a nice weekend See this message: http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-users/2006-January/000531.html Beta 2 changed the gaim API so the old plugin no longer loads. There's a .zip file containing the new .dll, which you should just copy over the old one (when gaim isn't running). - Ian From CLAY@BROKENLADDER.COM Sat Jan 28 23:45:21 2006 From: CLAY@BROKENLADDER.COM (CLAY SHENTRUP) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:45:21 -0800 Subject: [OTR-users] otr voip? 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Ian Goldberg wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 09:59:26AM -0800, Josh Steiner wrote: > >> hey folks, anyone have any suggestoins on how to get the otr plugin to >> work on gaim 2 beta 2 for windows? when i run the installer it gives no >> error messages, but the plugin never shows up in hte plugin list in gaim >> 2 . >> >> there is a "gaim2-otr.dll" in the C:\Program Files\Gaim\plugins folder, >> but not in the list... >> >> thanks, have a nice weekend >> > > See this message: > > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-users/2006-January/000531.html > > Beta 2 changed the gaim API so the old plugin no longer loads. There's > a .zip file containing the new .dll, which you should just copy over the > old one (when gaim isn't running). > > - Ian > _______________________________________________ > OTR-users mailing list > OTR-users@lists.cypherpunks.ca > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users > -- ________________________________________________________________ tasty electronic music vittles -- bluevitriol.com the only music blog you need -- playtherecords.com you are the dj. interactive music -- improbableorchestra.com random observations of the bizarre -- vitriolix.com From dguido@gmail.com Mon Jan 30 05:21:06 2006 From: dguido@gmail.com (Daniel Guido) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:21:06 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] otr private keys, feature request Message-ID: <9c2204930601292121g5975f28mb510f03ea9132ce3@mail.gmail.com> My friend was wondering if he has one set of private keys on his linux desktop and wants to take that exact set of private keys over to his windows laptop, what files does he move from where and to where? Also, this process would be made easier if gaim-otr had an export and/or import private keys button. What do you think? -- Dan Guido From ian@cypherpunks.ca Mon Jan 30 16:17:40 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:17:40 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] otr private keys, feature request In-Reply-To: <9c2204930601292121g5975f28mb510f03ea9132ce3@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c2204930601292121g5975f28mb510f03ea9132ce3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060130161740.GL31179@smtp.paip.net> On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 12:21:06AM -0500, Daniel Guido wrote: > My friend was wondering if he has one set of private keys on his linux > desktop and wants to take that exact set of private keys over to his > windows laptop, what files does he move from where and to where? Although this action tends to be discouraged (since it makes it harder to recover from key compromise), you just have to copy the ~/.gaim/otr.private_key file over. > Also, this process would be made easier if gaim-otr had an export > and/or import private keys button. What do you think? What would it do? The private keys are already in a convenient file by themselves. - Ian