From faber_451@elitemail.org Sun Apr 2 04:57:29 2006 From: faber_451@elitemail.org (Faber) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 22:57:29 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] otr plugin doesn't show up Message-ID: <1143950249.17757.258095114@webmail.messagingengine.com> I compiled and installed gaim, and then downloaded libotr and the otr plugin, and compiled/installed them (both as root, iirc). I started gaim, and went to the preferences page -- otr hadn't shown up as a plugin. so, I ran gaim with the -d (debug) option, and got the following lines as it loaded plugins: plugins: probing /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so plugins: /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so is unloadable: libotr.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory plugins: probing /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.la Any ideas? --Faber -- Faber faber_451@elitemail.org -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are From ian@cypherpunks.ca Sun Apr 2 14:25:09 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:25:09 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] otr plugin doesn't show up In-Reply-To: <1143950249.17757.258095114@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1143950249.17757.258095114@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20060402132509.GD22146@smtp.paip.net> On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 10:57:29PM -0500, Faber wrote: > I compiled and installed gaim, and then downloaded libotr and the otr > plugin, and compiled/installed them (both as root, iirc). I started > gaim, and went to the preferences page -- otr hadn't shown up as a > plugin. so, I ran gaim with the -d (debug) option, and got the > following lines as it loaded plugins: > > plugins: probing /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so > plugins: /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so is unloadable: libotr.so.2: > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > plugins: probing /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.la > > > Any ideas? Did you remember to patch gaim-otr so that it will work with gaim2? http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/gaim2b2-otr.diff What does "ldd /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so" say? - Ian From gdt@ir.bbn.com Sun Apr 2 14:34:49 2006 From: gdt@ir.bbn.com (Greg Troxel) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 09:34:49 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] otr plugin doesn't show up In-Reply-To: <1143950249.17757.258095114@webmail.messagingengine.com> (faber_451@elitemail.org's message of "Sat, 01 Apr 2006 22:57:29 -0500") References: <1143950249.17757.258095114@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: You didn't mention what system you are using (VMS? DG-UX? AIX? Solaris? :-). But, the error message indicates that whe gaim tried to dynamic link the plugin, some libaries couldn't be resolved. Try doing ldd /usr/local/lib/giam/gaim-otr.so On my system (NetBSD, still with older OTR), I get gdt 144 ~ > ldd /usr/pkg/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so /usr/pkg/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so: -lintl.0 => /usr/lib/libintl.so.0 -lgpg-error.0 => /usr/pkg/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 -lgcrypt.11 => /usr/pkg/lib/libgcrypt.so.11 -lotr.1 => /usr/pkg/lib/libotr.so.1 Likely problems are that libotr.so is not really in /usr/local/lib, that /usr/local/lib is not in the default library search path, or that gaim-otr was built without the correct -rpath settings. -- Greg Troxel From faber_451@elitemail.org Sun Apr 2 19:20:40 2006 From: faber_451@elitemail.org (Faber) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 14:20:40 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: [OTR-users] otr plugin doesn't show up Message-ID: <1144002040.4660.258119443@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 09:34:49 -0400, "Greg Troxel" said: > You didn't mention what system you are using (VMS? DG-UX? AIX? > Solaris? :-). Haha, sorry, it was late when I wrote that message so I didn't put in everything I should have. I'm running Debian Stable (Sarge) on my old Thinkpad 600E with a 2.4.27 kernel. > But, the error message indicates that whe gaim tried to > dynamic link the plugin, some libaries couldn't be resolved. > > Try doing > > ldd /usr/local/lib/giam/gaim-otr.so > > On my system (NetBSD, still with older OTR), I get > > gdt 144 ~ > ldd /usr/pkg/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so > /usr/pkg/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so: > -lintl.0 => /usr/lib/libintl.so.0 > -lgpg-error.0 => /usr/pkg/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 > -lgcrypt.11 => /usr/pkg/lib/libgcrypt.so.11 > -lotr.1 => /usr/pkg/lib/libotr.so.1 > > > Likely problems are that libotr.so is not really in /usr/local/lib, > that /usr/local/lib is not in the default library search path, or that > gaim-otr was built without the correct -rpath settings. when I run ldd, I get the following: hackstock:/home/faber# ldd /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so libgcrypt.so.11 => /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11 (0x40018000) libgpg-error.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 (0x40065000) libotr.so.2 => /usr/lib/libotr.so.2 (0x4006a000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40079000) libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x401ac000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000) Now, if I'm right, gaim was looking for libotr in /usr/lib/. I poked around on the Debian website for a while, and found the .deb package for a slightly older version of libotr, and it showed that when installed, it places libotr.so.2 into /usr/lib. So, I cp'd libotr.so.2 into /usr/lib -- and it instantly showed up in the gaim plugins list when I restarted -- and didn't throw any error messages. I was able to establish an encrypted chat session with another friend who has the same version of OTR running, and all seems to be well. >From what you've said, I've probably missed a compile option somewhere. It appears to be working though, so I'm inclined to leave it as it is. However, does anyone know if this will cause any problems in the future? I obviously want to install this library correctly. Thanks for the help, by the way, I'm sort of new to compiling applications from source, and so all of this is new and a bit confusing for me. --Faber -- Faber faber_451@elitemail.org -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again From faber_451@elitemail.org Sun Apr 2 19:29:12 2006 From: faber_451@elitemail.org (Faber) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 14:29:12 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: [OTR-users] otr plugin doesn't show up Message-ID: <1144002552.5259.258119529@webmail.messagingengine.com> When I run that command, I get the following back: faber@hackstock:~$ ldd /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.la not a dynamic executable faber@hackstock:~$ When I run that on gaim-otr.so however, I get this: hackstock:/home/faber# ldd /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so libgcrypt.so.11 => /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11 (0x40018000) libgpg-error.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 (0x40065000) libotr.so.2 => /usr/lib/libotr.so.2 (0x4006a000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40079000) libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x401ac000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000) ... as mentioned in the email I just sent replying to Greg's email. Sorry for sending duplicates, I accidentally replied to both of your individual email addresses and not the otr-users email address >_< --Faber On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:25:09 -0400, "Ian Goldberg" said: > On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 10:57:29PM -0500, Faber wrote: > > I compiled and installed gaim, and then downloaded libotr and the otr > > plugin, and compiled/installed them (both as root, iirc). I started > > gaim, and went to the preferences page -- otr hadn't shown up as a > > plugin. so, I ran gaim with the -d (debug) option, and got the > > following lines as it loaded plugins: > > > > plugins: probing /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so > > plugins: /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so is unloadable: libotr.so.2: > > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > plugins: probing /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.la > > > > > > Any ideas? > > Did you remember to patch gaim-otr so that it will work with gaim2? > http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/gaim2b2-otr.diff > > What does "ldd /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so" say? > > - Ian -- Faber faber_451@elitemail.org -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... From mail@scottellis.com.au Mon Apr 3 05:58:48 2006 From: mail@scottellis.com.au (Scott Ellis) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:58:48 +1000 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR proxy or OTR plugin with Miranda IM In-Reply-To: <20060215230111.GO31096@smtp.paip.net> References: <96e269140602071930o16e68796k@mail.gmail.com> <20060208162900.GQ31179@smtp.paip.net> <96e269140602081347w5a0b792bh@mail.gmail.com> <96e269140602090334q5dc188b8i@mail.gmail.com> <96e269140602110550u3695762aw@mail.gmail.com> <96e269140602150608w24836e79j@mail.gmail.com> <20060215230111.GO31096@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: <96e269140604022158h18e82b66i47a60f18835a1c3f@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_40732_509586.1144040328332 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline hi all, FYI - i beleive i found the bug preventing the miranda otr plugin from working with pre-alpha versions of miranda the update is on the miranda file listing at: http://addons.miranda-im.org/details.php?action=3Dviewfile&id=3D2644 Scott ------=_Part_40732_509586.1144040328332 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
hi all,
 
FYI - i beleive i found the bug preventing the miranda otr plugin from= working with pre-alpha versions of miranda
 
the update is on the miranda file listing at:
 
Scott
------=_Part_40732_509586.1144040328332-- From gdt@ir.bbn.com Mon Apr 3 12:40:55 2006 From: gdt@ir.bbn.com (Greg Troxel) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 07:40:55 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: [OTR-users] otr plugin doesn't show up In-Reply-To: <1144002040.4660.258119443@webmail.messagingengine.com> (faber_451@elitemail.org's message of "Sun, 02 Apr 2006 14:20:40 -0400") References: <1144002040.4660.258119443@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: However, does anyone know if this will cause any problems in the future? I obviously want to install this library correctly. Hard to tell - this is really something you should ask on a Debian support list. Each OS has rules about where programs go and how shared libraries are handled. Debian at least used to be opposed to -rpath, and it's pretty clear your problems are about shared library searching. Generally, one should only put programs under the control of the package system in directories owned by the package system, and put other programs elsewhere. hackstock:/home/faber# ldd /usr/local/lib/gaim/gaim-otr.so libgcrypt.so.11 => /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11 (0x40018000) libgpg-error.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 (0x40065000) libotr.so.2 => /usr/lib/libotr.so.2 (0x4006a000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40079000) libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x401ac000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000) That *ought* to indicate that libotr.so.o2 was found in /usr/lib. Now, if I'm right, gaim was looking for libotr in /usr/lib/. I poked around on the Debian website for a while, and found the .deb package for a slightly older version of libotr, and it showed that when installed, it places libotr.so.2 into /usr/lib. But this is about where Debian things programs in .debs should go, not where otr belongs in some larger sense. (That's fine of Debian to specify where to put programs; just pointing out that it's a package thing not an otr thing.) So, I cp'd libotr.so.2 into /usr/lib -- and it instantly showed up in the gaim plugins list when I restarted -- and didn't throw any error messages. This is asking for later trouble IMHO - you've put a file into /usr which is managed by the package system. A cleaner fix is to tell the system to look in /usr/local/lib for libraries. Using -R/usr/local/lib on the link link for gaim-otr should also do this, but if Debian still discourages rpath you should ask the Debian people what you should do instead. I was able to establish an encrypted chat session with another friend who has the same version of OTR running, and all seems to be well. More specifically, gaim appears to have correctly loaded gaim-otr and libotr. Whether things are really in the right place is another matter, but it's good that you are now running. -- Greg Troxel From paul@cypherpunks.ca Tue Apr 4 04:49:49 2006 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 05:49:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Fwd: Re: [OTR-users] otr plugin doesn't show up In-Reply-To: References: <1144002040.4660.258119443@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Greg Troxel wrote: > So, I cp'd libotr.so.2 into > /usr/lib -- and it instantly showed up in the gaim plugins list when I > restarted -- and didn't throw any error messages. > > This is asking for later trouble IMHO - you've put a file into /usr > which is managed by the package system. > > A cleaner fix is to tell the system to look in /usr/local/lib for > libraries. Using -R/usr/local/lib on the link link for gaim-otr > should also do this, but if Debian still discourages rpath you should > ask the Debian people what you should do instead. AFAIK, the correct way is to add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf (and run 'ldconfig' once). I am not sure why some distributions have stopped populating ld.so.conf with /usr/local/lib, but since that directory normally is owned by root anyway, I don't see what harm it could do. Only root can install libraries in there. Paul From steve@sireninteractive.com Wed Apr 5 16:02:11 2006 From: steve@sireninteractive.com (Stephen Przybysz) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:02:11 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR - unverified? Message-ID: <009601c658c1$eb21ef80$660a8c0a@corp.sireninteractive.com> Hello, I am sorry if this has come up before, but I did not see it in the archive. We use Gaim v1.5.0 with version 3.0.0 of OTR. We all use the Yahoo IM protocol. I cannot get any of the sessions to be Private. All of the conversations are unverified. When we used OTR 2.x.x this was not a problem. Any answers? BTW, we are using the windows version primarily with some Mac clients that use adium as well. Regards, Stephen A.Przybysz IT Systems Manager Siren Interactive Corporation 708-763-0763 x14 www.sireninteractive.com From ian@cypherpunks.ca Wed Apr 5 16:45:11 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:45:11 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR - unverified? In-Reply-To: <009601c658c1$eb21ef80$660a8c0a@corp.sireninteractive.com> References: <009601c658c1$eb21ef80$660a8c0a@corp.sireninteractive.com> Message-ID: <20060405154511.GE22146@smtp.paip.net> On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:02:11AM -0500, Stephen Przybysz wrote: > Hello, > > I am sorry if this has come up before, but I did not see it in the archive. > We use Gaim v1.5.0 with version 3.0.0 of OTR. We all use the Yahoo IM > protocol. I cannot get any of the sessions to be Private. All of the > conversations are unverified. When we used OTR 2.x.x this was not a > problem. Any answers? BTW, we are using the windows version primarily with > some Mac clients that use adium as well. That's weird. When you right-click on the "OTR: Unverified" button, and select "Verify fingerprint", what happens? - Ian From steve@sireninteractive.com Wed Apr 5 18:09:26 2006 From: steve@sireninteractive.com (Stephen Przybysz) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:09:26 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR - unverified? In-Reply-To: <20060405154511.GE22146@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: <00b301c658d3$b1b41270$660a8c0a@corp.sireninteractive.com> Thank you very much! That was it! I did not see that in the documentation. It has been driving me nuts! Thanks again, Stephen A.Przybysz IT Systems Manager Siren Interactive Corporation 708-763-0763 x14 www.sireninteractive.com -----Original Message----- From: otr-users-admin@lists.cypherpunks.ca [mailto:otr-users-admin@lists.cypherpunks.ca] On Behalf Of Ian Goldberg Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:45 AM To: otr-users@lists.cypherpunks.ca Subject: Re: [OTR-users] OTR - unverified? On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:02:11AM -0500, Stephen Przybysz wrote: > Hello, > > I am sorry if this has come up before, but I did not see it in the archive. > We use Gaim v1.5.0 with version 3.0.0 of OTR. We all use the Yahoo IM > protocol. I cannot get any of the sessions to be Private. All of the > conversations are unverified. When we used OTR 2.x.x this was not a > problem. Any answers? BTW, we are using the windows version primarily with > some Mac clients that use adium as well. That's weird. When you right-click on the "OTR: Unverified" button, and select "Verify fingerprint", what happens? - Ian _______________________________________________ OTR-users mailing list OTR-users@lists.cypherpunks.ca http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users From CLAY@BROKENLADDER.COM Wed Apr 5 21:33:52 2006 From: CLAY@BROKENLADDER.COM (CLAY SHENTRUP) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:33:52 -0700 Subject: [OTR-users] Creators and Ambitions Message-ID: <9129d8bb0604051333g2b4cfa44t62d107eea8268dd9@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_36593_28898305.1144269232961 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline VGhpcyBpcyBqdXN0IGEgZ2VuZXJhbCBxdWVzdGlvbiBvZiB0aGUgcGVvcGxlIGludm9sdmVkIGlu IHRoZSBPVFIgcHJvamVjdC4KCk9idmlvdXNseSBPVFIgaGFzIGEgbG90IHRvIGRvIHdpdGggZ2l2 aW5nIHBvd2VyIHRvIGluZGl2aWR1YWxzLCBpbiBsaWdodCBvZgpwb3RlbnRpYWwgZXZlc2Ryb3Bw aW5nIGJ5IGdvdmVybm1lbnQgYWdlbmNpZXMgKHdoaWNoIHNlZW0gdG8gYmUgYSBiaWdnZXIKaXNz dWUgdGhhbiB5b3VyIGNhc3VhbCBvbmxpbmUgYmFuZGl0KS4gIFdoYXQgb3RoZXIgaWRlYXMgYW5k IGdvYWxzIGRvIHlvdQpoYXZlIHRvIHRoYXQgZW5kPyAgSSB0aGluayBhIGxvdCBvZiB1cyB3b3Vs ZCBiZSByZWFsbHkgaW50ZXJlc3RlZCBpbiBoZWFyaW5nCm1vcmUgYWJvdXQgeW91ciBwaGlsb3Nv cGh5IGFuZCBzdWNoLiAgSSBoYXZlIGltYWdpbmVkIFRPUi1saWtlIHNlcnZlcmxlc3MKc3lzdGVt cyBmb3IgYWxsb3dpbmcgYW5vbnltb3VzIGVuY3J5cHRlZCBjb21tdW5pY2F0aW9uIGJldHdlZW4g cGFydGllcyB3aG8KaWRlbnRpZnkgdGhlbXNlbHZlcyBvbmx5IGJ5IG1lYW5zIG9mIHRoZWlyIGRp Z2l0YWwgc2lnbmF0dXJlcy4gIFRoZXJlJ3MgYWxzbwpDaGF1bSdzIGJsaW5kZWQgc2lnbmF0dXJl cyBmb3IgZGlnaXRhbCBjYXNoLCB3aGljaCBJIHJlYWxseSB3aXNoIHNvbWVvbmUKd291bGQgaW1w bGVtZW50IHZpYSBzb21lIG9mZnNob3JlIGNvbXBhbnksIG5vdyB0aGF0IHRoZSBwYXRlbnQgaGFz IGV4cGlyZWQuCgpUaGlzIGlzIGtpbmQgb2YgYW4gaW5jb2hlcmVudCBzZXJpZXMgb2YgcXVlc3Rp b25zLCBidXQgaXQgc2VlbXMgbGlrZSB0aGVzZQphcmUgaXNzdWVzIHRoYXQgYSBsb3Qgb2YgT1RS IHVzZXJzIHdvdWxkIGhhdmUgc29tZSBpbnRlcmVzdCBpbi4gIFNvIG1hbnkKcGVvcGxlIHRhbGsg YSBsb3QgYWJvdXQgY29uY2VwdHMgbGlrZSBhbm9ueW1vdXMgZGlnaXRhbCBjYXNoLCBhbmQgTWl4 bWluaW9uCmFuZCBhbGwgb2YgdGhhdC4gIEJ1dCBPVFIgaGFzIGNvbWUgdG8gZnJ1aXRpb24gd2l0 aCBzdWNoIHNvdW5kIGFuZAppbnRlbGxpZ2VudCBiYWNraW5nLCBhbmQgZnJlcXVlbnQgc3VwcG9y dCBkaXJlY3RseSBmcm9tIHlvdSBndXlzLiAgSG93IG1hbnkKc2ltaWxhciBwcm9qZWN0cyBjYW4g c2F5IHRoYXQ/CgpCdXQgdGhlIG9uZSB0aGluZyB3ZSBkb24ndCBldmVyIGhlYXIgYWJvdXQgaXMg d2hvIHlvdSBndXlzIGFyZSBhbmQgd2hhdAp5b3UncmUgcmVhbGx5IHN0cml2aW5nIGZvci4gIElz IGl0IGp1c3QgZW5jcnlwdGlvbiBmb3IgdGhlIHNha2Ugb2Ygc2VjdXJpdHksCm9yIGRvIHlvdSBo YXZlIGJpZ2dlciBtb3JlIHBoaWxpc29waGljYWwgZ29hbHM/ICBBcmUgeW91IGFnZW50cyBvZiB0 aGUgTlNBLApjb25zcGlyaW5nIHRvIHRyaWNrIHVzIGludG8gcmV2ZWFsaW5nIG91ciBzZWNyZXRz IHVuZGVyIHRoZSBmYWxzZSBzZW5zZSBvZgpzZWN1cml0eT8gOikKCkFuZCBub3cgdGhhdCB5b3Un dmUgZ3JhZHVhdGVkLCB3aGF0IGRvIHlvdSBndXlzIGRvIGluIHlvdXIgcHJvZmVzc2lvbmFsCmxp dmVzLCBmb3IgaW5jb21lPyAgTWF5YmUgbm9uZSBvZiB0aGlzIGlzIGFueSBvZiBvdXIgYnVzaW5l c3MsIGJ1dCBJIGZvciBvbmUKaGF2ZSBhIGxvdCBvZiBjdXJpb3NpdHkgYWJvdXQgd2hhdCB0aGVz ZSBmb2xrcyBiZWhpbmQgT1RSIGFyZSBsaWtlLgoKVGhhbmtzIGZvciB5b3VyIHRpbWUsCkNsYXkK Ci0tCk1pbGsgaXMgYW4gZXhjZWxsZW50IHNvdXJjZSBvZiBncm93dGggaG9ybW9uZXMsIGZhdCwg Y2hvbGVzdGVyb2wsCmFsbGVyZ2VuaWMgcHJvdGVpbnMsIGJsb29kLCBwdXMsIGFudGliaW90aWNz LCBiYWN0ZXJpYSwgYW5kIHZpcnVzZXMsCmFuZCB3aGF0IHRoZSBkYWlyeSBpbmR1c3RyeSB0b3V0 cyBhcyAidGhlIHBlcmZlY3QgZm9vZC4iCg== ------=_Part_36593_28898305.1144269232961 Content-Type: text/html; 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7 15:54:14 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:54:14 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR-Gaim crashes on logon, when OTR-Messages are saved on the Server In-Reply-To: <443622C0.10802@gmx.net> References: <443622C0.10802@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20060407145414.GK31646@smtp.paip.net> On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:28:48AM +0200, Moritz 'Morty' Str??be wrote: > Hi there, > unfortunately there is no bugtracker so I'll report this here: > OTR-Gaim (Plugin for 2.0 Beta 3) crashes on logon, when OTR-Messages are > saved on the Server > If anyone need more information tell me, but I'll won't write a > compleate bugreport if this is a know problem. There is in fact a bugtracker: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=128860&atid=713088 What is the backtrace when gaim crashes? Thanks, - Ian From bean62@hotmail.com Mon Apr 10 20:06:00 2006 From: bean62@hotmail.com (ben k) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:06:00 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR-Gaim, behavior with multiple accounts In-Reply-To: <20060407145414.GK31646@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: Apologies if a) this has been discussed before and I just skimmed over that, and/or b) if my explanation doesn't provide enough details. In gaim, I have multiple accounts for the various IM types, such as AIM, Yahoo, Google Talk (jabber), and MSN messenger. In many cases, I have the same person as a contact for each different IM system. I group my contacts together in Gaim, with preference to whichever IM system we use most frequently. So, my buddies are often collapsed but within a single buddy list entry is up to 4 "buddies" (the same person on AIM, MSN, Yahoo and Google, respectively). Now, sometimes I'll be using yahoo and the person on the other end keeps having connection problems to Yahoo so we switch to MSN Messenger. When this happens, if we already had private communications established through OTR, the window will display a second OTR button. The second button is not private at first, and then tries to establish a private connection for the second button (related to MSN, in this example). When this happened, gaim crashed. I didn't do a trace or anything, but upon request I could try this again and provide such a thing. And, this is such an obscure case (I use this every day and never have any problems) that it's really not that important. But, I thought I'd share this with the group to see if this was something other folks encountered, and/or if it's something to be dealt with in future releases, or if i should just not worry about it ;-) thanks for the great plugin... i make anyone i talk to download it. -ben _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From ian@cypherpunks.ca Mon Apr 10 20:39:33 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:39:33 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR-Gaim, behavior with multiple accounts In-Reply-To: References: <20060407145414.GK31646@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: <20060410193933.GY31646@smtp.paip.net> On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 03:06:00PM -0400, ben k wrote: > Now, sometimes I'll be using yahoo and the person on the other end keeps > having connection problems to Yahoo so we switch to MSN Messenger. When > this happens, if we already had private communications established through > OTR, the window will display a second OTR button. The second button is not > private at first, and then tries to establish a private connection for the > second button (related to MSN, in this example). When this happened, gaim > crashed. I didn't do a trace or anything, but upon request I could try > this again and provide such a thing. Please do! Does it crash every time you do this? - Ian From bean62@hotmail.com Mon Apr 10 21:31:55 2006 From: bean62@hotmail.com (ben k) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:31:55 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR-Gaim, behavior with multiple accounts In-Reply-To: <20060410193933.GY31646@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: Apparently not. I've been able to have multiple OTR buttons show up (up to 4, since i have 4 accounts with users tied together in the buddy list), but that's sort of understandable / expected, or at least makes some sense. I'm able to establish 4 different OTR connections (Yahoo, AIM, Google, Msn). If I find a way to crash it again consistently I'll let you know. >From: Ian Goldberg >To: otr-users@lists.cypherpunks.ca >Subject: Re: [OTR-users] OTR-Gaim, behavior with multiple accounts >Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:39:33 -0400 > >On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 03:06:00PM -0400, ben k wrote: > > Now, sometimes I'll be using yahoo and the person on the other end keeps > > having connection problems to Yahoo so we switch to MSN Messenger. When > > this happens, if we already had private communications established >through > > OTR, the window will display a second OTR button. The second button is >not > > private at first, and then tries to establish a private connection for >the > > second button (related to MSN, in this example). When this happened, >gaim > > crashed. I didn't do a trace or anything, but upon request I could try > > this again and provide such a thing. > >Please do! Does it crash every time you do this? > > - Ian >_______________________________________________ >OTR-users mailing list >OTR-users@lists.cypherpunks.ca >http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From paul@cypherpunks.ca Mon Apr 10 22:45:44 2006 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:45:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OTR-users] OTR-Gaim, behavior with multiple accounts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, ben k wrote: > Apparently not. I've been able to have multiple OTR buttons show up (up to 4, > since i have 4 accounts with users tied together in the buddy list), but > that's sort of understandable / expected, or at least makes some sense. Odd. I have the same usage with gaim, and I have never seen these "extra" OTR buttons. Which version of gaim are you using? I am using gaim-1.5.0-9.fc4 with gaim-otr-3.0.0-2.fc4. Paul From bean62@hotmail.com Tue Apr 11 13:50:08 2006 From: bean62@hotmail.com (ben k) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:50:08 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR-Gaim, behavior with multiple accounts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Odd. I have the same usage with gaim, and I have never seen these "extra" >OTR buttons. Which version of gaim are you using? I am using >gaim-1.5.0-9.fc4 >with gaim-otr-3.0.0-2.fc4. Using gaim2.0.0beta3 with the most recent OTR dll that was linked for beta2 in the downloads section (this link: http://otr.cypherpunks.ca/binaries/windows/gaim2b2-otr3.zip ) -ben _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From morty@gmx.net Tue Apr 11 14:13:04 2006 From: morty@gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?TW9yaXR6ICdNb3J0eScgU3Ryw7xiZQ==?=) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:13:04 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR-Gaim crashes on logon, when OTR-Messages are saved on the Server In-Reply-To: <20060407145414.GK31646@smtp.paip.net> References: <443622C0.10802@gmx.net> <20060407145414.GK31646@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: <443BAB60.3070702@gmx.net> This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070907050502040803060207 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070208020003040809070805" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070208020003040809070805 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020808030707060109020708" --------------020808030707060109020708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian Goldberg schrieb: > On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:28:48AM +0200, Moritz 'Morty' Str??be wrote:= > =20 >> Hi there, >> unfortunately there is no bugtracker so I'll report this here: >> OTR-Gaim (Plugin for 2.0 Beta 3) crashes on logon, when OTR-Messages a= re=20 >> saved on the Server >> If anyone need more information tell me, but I'll won't write a=20 >> compleate bugreport if this is a know problem. >> =20 > > There is in fact a bugtracker: > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3D128860&atid=3D713088 > =20 Unfortunately there is no (easy to find) link on the "official" site. > What is the backtrace when gaim crashes? > =20 I havn't got mingw installed, so this will be a bit of trouble. But I=20 can send you the stack the next time it happens, so you have the chance=20 of getting an Idea of where the Problem is. If it doesn't help I'll=20 install mingw. :-) (Unfortunately cygwin won't do the job) Morty > Thanks, > > =20 --=20 Diese Email ist signiert. Sollte Dein Email-Client keine Signaturen=20 unterst=C3=BCtzen wird eine smime.p7s-Datei im Anhang angezeigt. Meinen PGP/GPG-Key gibt es auf den =C3=BCblichen Keyservern. --------------020808030707060109020708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian Goldberg schrieb: 
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:28:48AM +0200, Moritz 'Morty'=
 Str??be wrote:
  
Hi there,
unfortunately there is no bugtracker so I'll report this here:
OTR-Gaim (Plugin for 2.0 Beta 3) crashes on logon, when OTR-Messages are =

saved on the Server
If anyone need more information tell me, but I'll won't write a=20
compleate bugreport if this is a know problem.
    

There is in fact a bugtracker:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_=
id=3D128860&atid=3D713088

Unfortunately there is no (easy to find) link on the "official" site.
= 
What is the backtrace when gaim crashes?

I havn't got mingw installed, so this will be a bit of trouble. But I can send you the stack the next time it happens, so you have the chance of getting an Idea of where the Problem is. If it doesn't help I'll install mingw. :-) (Unfortunately cygwin won't do the job)
Morty

Thanks,


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I have the same usage with gaim, and I have never seen these "extra" > > OTR buttons. Which version of gaim are you using? I am using > > gaim-1.5.0-9.fc4 > > with gaim-otr-3.0.0-2.fc4. > > Using gaim2.0.0beta3 with the most recent OTR dll that was linked for beta2 > in the downloads section (this link: > http://otr.cypherpunks.ca/binaries/windows/gaim2b2-otr3.zip ) This must be a gaim2 issue with gaim-otr then. Paul From peter@crazymonkeys.de Wed Apr 12 18:22:45 2006 From: peter@crazymonkeys.de (Peter Albrecht) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:22:45 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim-OTR - OTR-Menu in chat window Message-ID: <443D3765.9040606@crazymonkeys.de> Hi! I started to use the OTR-plugin (v3.0.0) with Gaim (v1.5.0) today and it works great! But as always I discovered a little issue which could make the plugin a bit more perfekt (for me). ;) The buttons at the bottom of my chatwindows are disabled, because they were of no use for me. And I like to keep interfaces as simple and small as possible. Interface -> Conversations: Show buttons as: None But now the OTR-plugin placed his essential indicating- and controling-button next to those. And it would break my heart to enable all those buttons, I would never use, just to have this single OTR-button at hand. Although there are possibilities to disable those buttons (via plugins), there would still remain the lower bar, with nothing in it except the one OTR-button. And this would look very strange, too. ;) In order to resolve this conflict (of mine), I would be very glad have the funktionality of the OTR-button available through a menu at the top of the chat window. Next to "Conversation", "Options" and "Send As". I don't know, if I am the only one with such strange wishes. And I don't know how much work this would be. But I think it is worth to at least talk about it. ;) Peter Albrecht From ian@cypherpunks.ca Wed Apr 12 18:58:34 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:58:34 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] Gaim-OTR - OTR-Menu in chat window In-Reply-To: <443D3765.9040606@crazymonkeys.de> References: <443D3765.9040606@crazymonkeys.de> Message-ID: <20060412175834.GD14888@smtp.paip.net> On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 07:22:45PM +0200, Peter Albrecht wrote: > In order to resolve this conflict (of > mine), I would be very glad have the > funktionality of the OTR-button available > through a menu at the top of the chat window. > Next to "Conversation", "Options" and "Send As". > > I don't know, if I am the only one with > such strange wishes. And I don't know how > much work this would be. But I think it is > worth to at least talk about it. ;) Unfortunately, plugins can't play with menus in gaim 1.5. I'm told they can in 2.0, but I haven't yet been convinced it's true. We'd also lose the space for any icon; I'm not sure what could be done about that. - Ian From sync3280@gmail.com Wed Apr 12 19:29:27 2006 From: sync3280@gmail.com (Jeff Brown) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:29:27 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and portable GAIM Message-ID: <214be230604121129u7d9e16dg753c2f1196ff87b2@mail.gmail.com> has anyone been able to get OTR running within the portable version of GAIM, or does anyone know what has been edited in the portable version that would affect OTR's ability to work? -- sync3280@gmail.com From paul@cypherpunks.ca Wed Apr 12 22:30:58 2006 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:30:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and portable GAIM In-Reply-To: <214be230604121129u7d9e16dg753c2f1196ff87b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <214be230604121129u7d9e16dg753c2f1196ff87b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Jeff Brown wrote: > has anyone been able to get OTR running within the portable version of > GAIM, or does anyone know what has been edited in the portable version > that would affect OTR's ability to work? What is the "portable version of gaim"? It works on linux and it works on the windows gaim port. Paul From scott.fringer@gmail.com Wed Apr 12 23:14:32 2006 From: scott.fringer@gmail.com (Scott Fringer) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:14:32 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and portable GAIM In-Reply-To: References: <214be230604121129u7d9e16dg753c2f1196ff87b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Portable Gaim is designed to run from a USB stick and be totally independent of the host PC (settings and what-not are stored on the stick) so you can take your IM with you. It's been a while since I set mine up, but I am successfully using OTR with Gaim portable. I think the part I'm remembering is that OTR expects Gaim to be installed on the hard drive, and can't find a portable install - so I had to install to a PC-based Gaim install and then transfer the plugin to my USB stick. Regardless - if there's more questions, I can check the details when I fire up Gaim at the office tomorrow. Scott On 4/12/06, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Jeff Brown wrote: > > > has anyone been able to get OTR running within the portable version of > > GAIM, or does anyone know what has been edited in the portable version > > that would affect OTR's ability to work? > > What is the "portable version of gaim"? > > It works on linux and it works on the windows gaim port. > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > OTR-users mailing list > OTR-users@lists.cypherpunks.ca > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-users > From gmaxwell@gmail.com Sat Apr 15 00:50:14 2006 From: gmaxwell@gmail.com (Gregory Maxwell) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:50:14 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] So I'm not the only kook ... (on the subject of making all OTR security completely dependent on the DHP) Message-ID: >From http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-zimmermann-avt-zrtp-01.txt: " It's a good idea to force your opponent to have to solve multiple problems in order to mount a successful attack. Some examples of widely differing problems we might like to present him with are: Stealing a shared secret from one of the parties, being present on the very first session and every subsequent session to carry out an active MitM attack, and solving the discrete log problem. We want to force the opponent to solve more than one of these problems to succeed. The protocol can make use different kinds of shared secrets. Each type of shared secret is determined by a different method. All of the shared secrets are hashed together to form a session key to encrypt the call. An attacker must defeat all of the methods in order to determine the session key." From alienfrits@gmail.com Mon Apr 17 20:42:29 2006 From: alienfrits@gmail.com (alienfrits) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 14:42:29 -0500 Subject: [OTR-users] problems installing OTR on gaim2 beta3 Message-ID: <361ad5a60604171242s647172b2o2f3ab70bfa9dee81@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_6800_18894151.1145302949877 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Greetings, I am trying to get OTR working with gaim2 beta3 on windows XP. I downloaded the source gaim2-otr-3.0.exe for windows and the patch gaim2b2-otr3.zip which contains the gaim-otr.dll file. I'm having some difficulty trying to find this gaim-otr.dll file that I am supposed to replace. I've installed the OTR executable and ran searches to find this DLL and not getting any hits (yes I'm searching through the hidde= n directories). Looking in the .gaim folder and the otr install folder I don't see any dll files for this. Where exactly am I supposed to place this file? thanks -frits ------=_Part_6800_18894151.1145302949877 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Greetings,

I am trying to get OTR working with gaim2 beta3 on window= s XP.

I downloaded the source gaim2-otr-3.0.exe for windows and the = patch gaim2b2-otr3.zip which contains the gaim-otr.dll file.

I'm hav= ing some difficulty trying to find this=20 gaim-otr.dll file that I am supposed to replace.  I've installed the O= TR executable and ran searches to find this DLL and not getting any hits (y= es I'm searching through the hidden directories).  Looking in the .gai= m folder and the otr install folder I don't see any dll files for this.

Where exactly am I supposed to place this file?

thanks
-frits
------=_Part_6800_18894151.1145302949877-- From ian@cypherpunks.ca Mon Apr 17 21:01:52 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:01:52 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] problems installing OTR on gaim2 beta3 In-Reply-To: <361ad5a60604171242s647172b2o2f3ab70bfa9dee81@mail.gmail.com> References: <361ad5a60604171242s647172b2o2f3ab70bfa9dee81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060417200152.GR1474@smtp.paip.net> On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:42:29PM -0500, alienfrits wrote: > Greetings, > > I am trying to get OTR working with gaim2 beta3 on windows XP. > > I downloaded the source gaim2-otr-3.0.exe for windows and the patch > gaim2b2-otr3.zip which contains the gaim-otr.dll file. > > I'm having some difficulty trying to find this gaim-otr.dll file that I am > supposed to replace. I've installed the OTR executable and ran searches to > find this DLL and not getting any hits (yes I'm searching through the hidden > directories). Looking in the .gaim folder and the otr install folder I > don't see any dll files for this. > > Where exactly am I supposed to place this file? After you run the gaim-otr installer, it should place gaim-otr.dll in your (I think; I don't use Windows) Program Files\Gaim\plugins directory. Replace that file with the one in the .zip. - Ian From morty@gmx.net Mon Apr 17 23:28:04 2006 From: morty@gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?TW9yaXR6ICdNb3J0eScgU3Ryw7xiZQ==?=) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:28:04 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] problems installing OTR on gaim2 beta3 In-Reply-To: <20060417200152.GR1474@smtp.paip.net> References: <361ad5a60604171242s647172b2o2f3ab70bfa9dee81@mail.gmail.com> <20060417200152.GR1474@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: <44441674.10509@gmx.net> This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020508050600030003030501 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040205010603000905020807" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040205010603000905020807 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060906070809030007010408" --------------060906070809030007010408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian Goldberg schrieb: > On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:42:29PM -0500, alienfrits wrote: > =20 >> Greetings, >> >> I am trying to get OTR working with gaim2 beta3 on windows XP. >> >> I downloaded the source gaim2-otr-3.0.exe for windows and the patch >> gaim2b2-otr3.zip which contains the gaim-otr.dll file. >> >> I'm having some difficulty trying to find this gaim-otr.dll file that = I am >> supposed to replace. I've installed the OTR executable and ran search= es to >> find this DLL and not getting any hits (yes I'm searching through the = hidden >> directories). Looking in the .gaim folder and the otr install folder = I >> don't see any dll files for this. >> >> Where exactly am I supposed to place this file? >> =20 > > After you run the gaim-otr installer, it should place gaim-otr.dll in > your (I think; I don't use Windows) Program Files\Gaim\plugins > directory. Replace that file with the one in the .zip. > > - Ian > =20 Hmm I just copied the gaim-otr.dll in the plugins-dir. After that you=20 have to activate it, of course, in the plugins-menu. Morty --=20 Diese Email ist signiert. Sollte Dein Email-Client keine Signaturen=20 unterst=C3=BCtzen wird eine smime.p7s-Datei im Anhang angezeigt. Meinen PGP/GPG-Key gibt es auf den =C3=BCblichen Keyservern. --------------060906070809030007010408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian Goldberg schrieb: 
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:42:29PM -0500, alienfrits wro=
te:
  
Greetings,

I am trying to get OTR working with gaim2 beta3 on windows XP.

I downloaded the source gaim2-otr-3.0.exe for windows and the patch
gaim2b2-otr3.zip which contains the gaim-otr.dll file.

I'm having some difficulty trying to find this gaim-otr.dll file that I a=
m
supposed to replace.  I've installed the OTR executable and ran searches =
to
find this DLL and not getting any hits (yes I'm searching through the hid=
den
directories).  Looking in the .gaim folder and the otr install folder I
don't see any dll files for this.

Where exactly am I supposed to place this file?
    

After you run the gaim-otr installer, it should place gaim-otr.dll in
your (I think; I don't use Windows) Program Files\Gaim\plugins
directory.  Replace that file with the one in the .zip.

   - Ian
Hmm I just copied the gaim-otr.dll in the plugins-dir. After that you have to activate it, of course, in the plugins-menu.
Morty

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--------------ms020508050600030003030501-- From paul@cypherpunks.ca Tue Apr 18 20:36:49 2006 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and portable GAIM In-Reply-To: References: <214be230604121129u7d9e16dg753c2f1196ff87b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Scott Fringer wrote: > Portable Gaim is designed to run from a USB stick and be totally > independent of the host PC (settings and what-not are stored on the > stick) so you can take your IM with you. > > It's been a while since I set mine up, but I am successfully using OTR > with Gaim portable. I think the part I'm remembering is that OTR > expects Gaim to be installed on the hard drive, and can't find a > portable install - so I had to install to a PC-based Gaim install and > then transfer the plugin to my USB stick. Hmm, so the installer cannot find the gaim installation on a USB stick, because that gaim did not install any references about its location in the registry. So the installer will never be able to find it. But if it doesn't find it, perhaps I can then prompt it for a custom location specified by the user (who presumably knows what he is doing). I'll see if NSIS offers such an option, Paul From paul@cypherpunks.ca Tue Apr 18 20:47:26 2006 From: paul@cypherpunks.ca (Paul Wouters) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:47:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OTR-users] problems installing OTR on gaim2 beta3 In-Reply-To: <20060417200152.GR1474@smtp.paip.net> References: <361ad5a60604171242s647172b2o2f3ab70bfa9dee81@mail.gmail.com> <20060417200152.GR1474@smtp.paip.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, Ian Goldberg wrote: > > Where exactly am I supposed to place this file? > > After you run the gaim-otr installer, it should place gaim-otr.dll in > your (I think; I don't use Windows) Program Files\Gaim\plugins > directory. Replace that file with the one in the .zip. Or the directory you told gaim to install in, as obtained from the registry. First HKLM/Software/gaim is read, and if that does not exist, then HKCU/Software/gaim is read. Then the value obtained plus "/plugins" is where the gaim-otr.dll will be found. Paul From scott.fringer@gmail.com Tue Apr 18 20:47:59 2006 From: scott.fringer@gmail.com (Scott Fringer) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:47:59 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] OTR and portable GAIM In-Reply-To: References: <214be230604121129u7d9e16dg753c2f1196ff87b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4445426F.3040403@gmail.com> Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Scott Fringer wrote: > >> Portable Gaim is designed to run from a USB stick and be totally >> independent of the host PC (settings and what-not are stored on the >> stick) so you can take your IM with you. >> >> It's been a while since I set mine up, but I am successfully using OTR >> with Gaim portable. I think the part I'm remembering is that OTR >> expects Gaim to be installed on the hard drive, and can't find a >> portable install - so I had to install to a PC-based Gaim install and >> then transfer the plugin to my USB stick. > > Hmm, so the installer cannot find the gaim installation on a USB stick, > because that gaim did not install any references about its location in the > registry. So the installer will never be able to find it. > But if it doesn't find it, perhaps I can then prompt it for a custom location > specified by the user (who presumably knows what he is doing). > > I'll see if NSIS offers such an option, Certainly sounds like a very good option from my perspective. Scott From bean62@hotmail.com Fri Apr 21 19:02:44 2006 From: bean62@hotmail.com (ben k) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:02:44 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] question/suggestion around resending failed messages Message-ID: Does anyone have occasional problems with messages that don't go through being automatically resent over and over? This happens to me most often with the Yahoo network... sometimes with copy/pasted messages containing html links or sometimes with messages that are too long. I believe OTR does the resending. But, when the error with the message persists, the message-resending process just keeps looping. This doesn't happen to me often, but when it does, I find myself having to quit/close gaim to stop it from continuing. Is there any limit to the number of resends that will be attempted when errors occur during sending a message? Or, if not, can a limit be added (like say... 10 times max?) so that this looping won't happen? Thanks very much for the great software. I use this every day and can no longer IM without it... ;-) -ben _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From Thomas.Henlich@tu-dresden.de Tue Apr 25 17:04:37 2006 From: Thomas.Henlich@tu-dresden.de (Thomas Henlich) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:04:37 +0200 Subject: [OTR-users] How does deniability work? Message-ID: <444E4895.5020009@tu-dresden.de> I have read the CodeCon presentation and still don't fully understand how deniability works: "Anyone can forge messages after a conversation to make them look like they came from you. However, during a conversation, your correspondent is assured the messages he sees are authentic and unmodified." If at some point in the conversation (after each message?) the old message key is published, doesn't it open up the possibility for a MITM attack? I.e. the attacker intercepts and holds back two of Alice's messages and uses the message key from the second message to forge a message and sends it to Bob? Any pointers to more information are appreciated. -- Thomas From ian@cypherpunks.ca Wed Apr 26 14:57:27 2006 From: ian@cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:57:27 -0400 Subject: [OTR-users] How does deniability work? In-Reply-To: <444E4895.5020009@tu-dresden.de> References: <444E4895.5020009@tu-dresden.de> Message-ID: <20060426135727.GK1212@smtp.paip.net> On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:04:37PM +0200, Thomas Henlich wrote: > I have read the CodeCon presentation and still don't fully understand > how deniability works: > > "Anyone can forge messages after a conversation to make them look like > they came from you. However, during a conversation, your correspondent > is assured the messages he sees are authentic and unmodified." > > If at some point in the conversation (after each message?) the old > message key is published, doesn't it open up the possibility for a MITM > attack? I.e. the attacker intercepts and holds back two of Alice's > messages and uses the message key from the second message to forge a > message and sends it to Bob? It's a good question. The MAC key for a particular message is only published at the point Bob is about to erase it from memory. So there's no way Bob will ever again accept a message MAC'd with that key. The idea is that the MAC keys aren't revealed after each message, but rather, slightly more slowly (after changes of directions of the conversation), so that Bob only publishes and throws away a MAC key when he sees a message from Alice using the next one in the sequence. In the scenario you describe, both messages from Alice would be MAC'd using the same key, which would not be revealed until later on. - Ian