<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Scott,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>You've come to the exact same conclusion I did with the same rationale. Adium's "manual" mode is actually defined as:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#236E25" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">/* OTRL_POLICY_MANUAL doesn't let us respond to other users' automatic attempts at encryption.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#236E25" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"> * If either user has OTR set to Automatic, an OTR session should be begun; without this modified</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#236E25" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"> * mask, both users would have to be on automatic for OTR to begin automatically, even though one user</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#236E25" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"> * _manually_ attempting OTR will _automatically_ bring the other into OTR even if the setting is Manual.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#236E25" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"> */</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#683821" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">#define OTRL_POLICY_MANUAL_AND_REPOND_TO_WHITESPACE</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#683821" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">( OTRL_POLICY_MANUAL | \</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#683821" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#683821" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">OTRL_POLICY_WHITESPACE_START_AKE | \</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#683821" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#683821" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">OTRL_POLICY_ERROR_START_AKE )</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>-Evan</DIV><DIV>www.adiumx.com</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Feb 21, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Scott Ellis wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV>i'm wondering, what would be the effect of adding the WHITESPACE_START_AKE flag into the MANUAL mode?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i mean - in my testing it seems that opportunistic mode only starts OTR when both sides have it set - if one side is set to manual, then automatic initialisation of OTR does not occur.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>if both sides are in manual, user 1 can 'force' user 2 to start OTR...so, if a user chooses 'opportunistic', wouldn't it make sense to force users they talk to who are in manual mode to start OTR also? would adding that flag have that effect? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Scott</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>