From ian at cypherpunks.ca Mon May 11 10:35:06 2009 From: ian at cypherpunks.ca (Ian Goldberg) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:35:06 -0400 Subject: [OTR-dev] java-otr In-Reply-To: <1241089743.6613.23.camel@george-laptop> References: <1241089743.6613.23.camel@george-laptop> Message-ID: <20090511143506.GF32636@thunk.cs.uwaterloo.ca> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 01:09:03PM +0200, Geekius Caesar wrote: > Hello, > > Earlier this month a mention has been made about a java-otr library > (http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-dev/2009-April/000994.html). > > I'm interested in this lib as well, and I'd like to know when it will be > out approximatelly and under what license? We've got the basic functionality working now, but we'll be doing more work over the next few months for sure. The license hasn't been decided yet, but LGPL seems like a likely choice (just like the C OTR library). - Ian From kaner.mail at gmail.com Mon May 11 12:30:13 2009 From: kaner.mail at gmail.com (Christian Fromme) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:30:13 +0200 Subject: [OTR-dev] java otr Message-ID: Hi list, I just realized there is a Java port for OTR in the works. Since I have been working on the very same thing with a small group of people for two month or so, this is a bit disappointing. Of course its great that there will be a OTR lib for Java written by the original OTR devs -- don't get me wrong here. Maybe we should've put more effort into marketing ;-). I think it's not really an option to write a second, competing OTR lib since Ian's version clearly will be the one to use. Anyway. Things are the way they are. Please let us know whether we can be of any help at this point. Best, Christian From geekius.caesar at gmail.com Tue May 12 10:35:10 2009 From: geekius.caesar at gmail.com (Geekius Caesar) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:35:10 +0200 Subject: [OTR-dev] java-otr Message-ID: I have started otr4j (http://code.google.com/p/otr4j) for my GSoC project (Implement OTR for SipCommunicator). To complete the project there has to be an OTR library, and since your library has basic functionality, do you plan to publish an alpha or beta version? That off course would be great! > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 01:09:03PM +0200, Geekius Caesar wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Earlier this month a mention has been made about a java-otr library >> (http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-dev/2009-April/000994.html). >> >> I'm interested in this lib as well, and I'd like to know when it will be >> out approximatelly and under what license? > > We've got the basic functionality working now, but we'll be doing more > work over the next few months for sure. > > The license hasn't been decided yet, but LGPL seems like a likely > choice (just like the C OTR library). > > ? - Ian From geekius.caesar at gmail.com Tue May 12 10:48:00 2009 From: geekius.caesar at gmail.com (Geekius Caesar) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:48:00 +0200 Subject: [OTR-dev] java otr Message-ID: Hello Christian, I am too developing a java-otr library (http://code.google.com/p/otr4j) that needs to be functional in less than a month for my GSoC project first term, which I think this is enough for basic functionality. If your project is open source (LGPL preferable) with working code base, and if Ian is not willing to publish the library until it's completely finished (I ask him about that in another thread in the mailing list), maybe I could use your library. Is there any source code available? For the credits, there is also libjotr (http://code.google.com/p/libjotr) by Markus which was implemented in late 2008. Regards, George > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:30:13 +0200 > From: Christian Fromme > Subject: [OTR-dev] java otr > To: otr-dev at lists.cypherpunks.ca > Cc: homac at strace.org > Message-ID: > ? ? ? ? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi list, > > I just realized there is a Java port for OTR in the works. Since I > have been working > on the very same thing with a small group of people for two month or > so, this is a > bit disappointing. Of course its great that there will be a OTR lib > for Java written by > the original OTR devs -- don't get me wrong here. Maybe we should've > put more effort > into marketing ;-). I think it's not really an option to write a > second, competing OTR > lib since Ian's version clearly will be the one to use. > > Anyway. Things are the way they are. Please let us know whether we can be of any > help at this point. > > Best, > Christian > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > OTR-dev mailing list > OTR-dev at lists.cypherpunks.ca > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-dev > > > End of OTR-dev Digest, Vol 8, Issue 2 > ************************************* > From kaner.mail at gmail.com Tue May 12 11:05:32 2009 From: kaner.mail at gmail.com (Christian Fromme) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:05:32 +0200 Subject: [OTR-dev] java otr In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Geekius, On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Geekius Caesar wrote: > I am too developing a java-otr library > (http://code.google.com/p/otr4j) that needs to be functional in less > than a month for my GSoC project first term, which I think this is > enough for basic functionality. The so far commited code on your project page is just skeletons without much implementation done. Do you have just this or more? Or did I miss something? > If your project is open source (LGPL preferable) with working code > base, and if Ian is not willing to publish the library until it's > completely finished (I ask him about that in another thread in the > mailing list), maybe I could use your library. Is there any source > code available? First of all, I am not working on this alone. :-) The code would be Open Source, probably BSD-style licence. We didnt think about that end too much yet. At first we wanted to wait for some release- able code to be ready before we upload it or announce it somewhere. Now that Ian is working on a Java version, I don't think it makes much sense to keep on hacking on our version unless we'd merge stuff. Ian's version is clearly the one to be used by most people. > For the credits, there is also libjotr > (http://code.google.com/p/libjotr) by Markus which was implemented in > late 2008. I didnt know about this one yet. There is some code there, dont know how complete it is yet. Did you test it? Best, Christian From geekius.caesar at gmail.com Tue May 12 11:13:44 2009 From: geekius.caesar at gmail.com (Geekius Caesar) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:13:44 +0200 Subject: [OTR-dev] java otr In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > The so far commited code on your project page is just skeletons > without much implementation done. Do you have just this or more? > Or did I miss something? Only skeleton for the time being to enforce my GSoC proposal, but if no alternative comes up, I will continue development and a working version must be out within a month (at most), this is a requirement. >> For the credits, there is also libjotr >> (http://code.google.com/p/libjotr) by Markus which was implemented in >> late 2008. > > I didnt know about this one yet. There is some code there, dont know > how complete it is yet. Did you test it? Works with V2 not V1, and needs some work to be IM-agnostic. - George.