[OTR-dev] session termination

Paul Wouters paul at cypherpunks.ca
Tue May 29 11:03:42 EDT 2007


On Tue, 29 May 2007, Scott Ellis wrote:

> using two gaim instances is no guarantee it's a miranda bug - two miranda
> instances work fine together too. it's a matter of interpretation of the
> specification...there are a number of problems i outlined in previous mails
> with gaim's interpretation, and imo less problems with miranda's

Ok, here is the log of gaim talking to mirande and one user going offline:

(10:51:23 AM) letoams at xs: ok, let's try it
(10:51:31 AM) eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de: ok, I'll exit Miranda
(10:51:42 AM) eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de: send me a few messages then

[ user goes offline ]

(10:51:51 AM) letoams at xs: oki
(10:51:56 AM) letoams at xs: message 2
(10:51:58 AM) letoams at xs: message 3
(10:52:01 AM) letoams at xs: message 4

[ user comes online ]

(10:53:23 AM) The following message received from eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de was not encrypted: [ok]
(10:53:32 AM) The following message received from eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de was not encrypted: [I received the follwing:]
(10:53:46 AM) The following message received from eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de was not encrypted: [16:53:11 Paul Wouters: [OTR Message] The encrypted message received from Paul Wouters is unreadable, as you are not currently communicating privately.
  16:53:11 Paul Wouters: [OTR Message] The encrypted message received from Paul Wouters is unreadable, as you are not currently communicating privately.
  16:53:11 Paul Wouters: [OTR Message] The encrypted message received from Paul Wouters is unreadable, as you are not currently communicating privately.
  16:53:11 Paul Wouters: [OTR Message] The encrypted message received from Paul Wouters is unreadable, as you are not currently communicating privately.
]
(10:53:51 AM) letoams at xs: correct
(10:53:53 AM) OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to OTR, who wasn't expecting it.
(10:54:00 AM) Attempting to refresh the private conversation with eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Miranda...
(10:54:01 AM) Successfully refreshed the unverified conversation with eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Miranda.
(10:54:01 AM) The last message to eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de was resent.
(10:54:03 AM) OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to OTR, who wasn't expecting it.

[ This is the part I don't understand : we refreshed, so why isnt Mirande understanding this message? ]

(10:54:08 AM) Successfully refreshed the unverified conversation with eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Miranda.
(10:54:08 AM) The last message to eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de was resent.
(10:54:10 AM) OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to OTR, who wasn't expecting it.
(10:54:33 AM) The last message to eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de was resent.
(10:54:37 AM) Private conversation with eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Miranda lost.

[ Here I "end private communication" ]

(10:54:39 AM) Attempting to start a private conversation with eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Miranda...
(10:54:48 AM) letoams at xs: ok that's a miranda bug AFAIK
(10:54:49 AM) Unverified conversation with eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Miranda started.
(10:54:51 AM) Successfully refreshed the unverified conversation with eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Miranda.
(10:54:56 AM) eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de: I even got some more error messages after going back online
(10:55:11 AM) letoams at xs: with gaim-otr this works fine

[ and only now does it work privately again ]

The same user with gaim to my gaim:

(10:58:44 AM) letoams at xs: ok let's do it with gaim too
(10:59:21 AM) The following message received from eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de was not encrypted: [so]
(10:59:35 AM) The following message received from eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de was not encrypted: [btw: I was too lazy to copy the keys from Miranda]
(10:59:41 AM) letoams at xs: testing 1 2 3
(10:59:41 AM) OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to Eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Gaim, who wasn't expecting it.
(10:59:52 AM) Unverified conversation with eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Gaim started.
(10:59:52 AM) The last message to eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de was resent.
(10:59:52 AM) The following message received from eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de was not encrypted: [so I'll have a new Key ID]
(11:00:00 AM) letoams at xs: testing 4 5 6
(11:00:08 AM) eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de: now it's ok

With a longer offline period, we got:

(11:02:08 AM) eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de: I'll exit Pidgin, you go on sending me messages, ok?
(11:02:28 AM) eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de: send 10 messages or so, just to be sure ;)
(11:02:33 AM) letoams at xs: ok
(11:02:40 AM) letoams at xs: I'll keep typing :)
(11:02:46 AM) letoams at xs: and more
(11:02:50 AM) letoams at xs: and more
(11:02:55 AM) letoams at xs: I do notice now you are offline btw
(11:04:16 AM) OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to Eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Gaim, who wasn't expecting it.
(11:04:16 AM) OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to Eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Gaim, who wasn't expecting it.
(11:04:16 AM) OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to Eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Gaim, who wasn't expecting it.
(11:04:20 AM) OTR Error: You sent encrypted data to Eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Gaim, who wasn't expecting it.
(11:04:38 AM) Successfully refreshed the unverified conversation with eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de/Gaim.
(11:04:50 AM) The following message received from eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de was not encrypted: [hmm, these messages are unreadable as well]
(11:04:53 AM) letoams at xs: hmm no resends now?
(11:04:59 AM) eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de: not yet
(11:05:16 AM) letoams at xs: is this miranda?
(11:05:19 AM) eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de: (17:01:41) Paul Wouters: The encrypted message received from letoams at jabber.xs4all.nl is unreadable, as you are not currently communicating privately.
(17:04:06) The encrypted message received from letoams at jabber.xs4all.nl is unreadable, as you are not currently communicating privately.
(17:04:06) The encrypted message received from letoams at jabber.xs4all.nl is unreadable, as you are not currently communicating privately.
(17:04:07) The encrypted message received from letoams at jabber.xs4all.nl is unreadable, as you are not currently communicating privately.
(17:04:34) Tim: hmm, these messages are unreadable as well
(11:05:28 AM) eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de: no, it's Pidgin 2.0
(11:05:36 AM) eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de: (formerly known as Gaim ;) )
(11:06:02 AM) eisbaer at jabber.ccc.de: I didn't close the message window
(11:06:15 AM) letoams at xs: hmm
(11:06:23 AM) letoams at xs: I guess needs needs more test cases :)

Here we don't see any "resends". I am not sure why.

Paul



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