[OTR-dev] gmail spam

Andri aoeuid at gmail.com
Wed Jul 18 02:58:45 EDT 2007


I've seen the mentioned lists marked as SPAM long before I heard the news about
Hotmail's CAPTCHAs. But SPAM *has* changed its tactics -- I've even seen
subjects similar to Bugzilla bugreports now. Like geeks are the perfect target
for body-part enlargement ads. Or maybe they were about dating services...
didn't check. Would make more sense though :)
I've also pressed the "Not spam" button for each misplaced message, hoping that
GMail would learn. But who knows -- it's a closed source system :P


Donny Viszneki wrote:
> Matrix and Skynet aside, I think most email servers are marking spam
> more often because Microsoft and Yahoo captchas have recently been
> compromised, increasing the amount of total spam out there. It costs
> money to filter it all, the most cost effective way has been to
> identify abusive email sources, but you can't just blacklist Hotmail
> and Yahoo.
> 
> Maybe Gmail and/or Yahoo have a "whitelist" feature?
> 
> On 7/17/07, Andri <aoeuid at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nikita Borisov wrote:
>> > On 7/17/07, Ian Goldberg <ian at cypherpunks.ca> wrote:
>> >> I don't use gmail; is there a way to tell why gmail thinks otr-dev is
>> >> spam?
>> >
>> > Not really, it's "magic".  I think it's personalized based on your
>> > incoming mail, though -- otr-dev wasn't marked as spam for me.
>> >
>> > - Nikita
>>
>> I've occasionally found both messages to this list and to the NFS list
>> in my
>> GMails SPAMbox.
>> I'm certain this is because any encryption to personal messages makes
>> it harder
>> for Google to collect private information and design The Matrix in the
>> future ;)
>> And NFS is just in the way of bringing GoogleFS to the masses!
>>
>> Perhaps someone has been actively marking some list-messages as SPAM,
>> and GMail,
>> in its trusting state, applied similar conclusions to the messages of
>> others.
>> Even though the possibility of false-positives is big, it seems like a
>> smart way
>> to design SPAM-filters used by many. Spamrank, if you will.
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